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51 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

I think he may be referring to the Roving Winter permits which allowed you to stop anywhere rather than just as appointed places, move on, stop somewhere else and so on. It was subsequently suggested that these were 'illegal'.

Boaters without home moorings on the southern Grand Union Canal are being offered Roving Mooring Permits by CRT. Boaters are being offered a way out of the enforcement process that means paying a substantial extra fee (£800 per year for a 60 foot boat) to do what s.17(3)(c)(ii) of the British Waterways Act 1995 already permits them to do.

CRT cannot lawfully create a ‘Roving Mooring Permit’. If it did so, it would be creating a third licensing category in between the two that were created by the British Waterways Act 1995. s.17(3)(c) of the 1995 Act created two licence categories: (i) with a home mooring and (ii) without a home mooring. To create a third category would require change in the law, in other words an amendment to s.17(3)(c) of the British Waterways Act 1995.  CRT would be acting beyond its legal powers if it created a Roving Mooring Permit without such a change in the law.

CRT maintains that the Roving Mooring Permit is a type of home mooring, not a new category of licence, but this is not borne out by the facts. It does not provide a place where the boat “can reasonably be kept and may lawfully be left” as is required by s.17(3)(c)(i) of the 1995 Act, because the Roving Mooring Permit requires boats to move every 14 days or 28 days between several places and does not provide any additional service or facility to the purchaser of the permit.

The Kennet and Avon Local Waterway Partnership rejected Roving Mooring Permits/  Community Mooring Permits in the Towpath Mooring Plan for the Kennet & Avon Canal West of Devizes, on the grounds that they would be regressive and divisive and would deny access to all boaters, and anglers, to large tracts of the towpath and create sections of canal where there were permanent lines of boats moored. The CRT Navigation Advisory Group wholeheartedly endorsed this.

It appears that the Local Waterway Partnership and the Navigation Advisory Group have been proved right; Roving Mooring Permits have already caused divisions both amongst continuous cruisers and also between boaters with home moorings and boaters without home moorings.

The Roving Winter Moorings were different from the completely separate kind of permit you allude to above Alan.

They were simple , cheap and very useful, the fact that winter moorings income dropped off a cliff after they were taken away shows how popular they were.

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18 hours ago, Goliath said:

Sorry was meant for mac of cygnet. 

Bugsworth basin. 

:)

  The chap on the permanent mooring wasn't on his boat, but I was given his name and it wasn't Pedro! I made the mooring arrangements with a lady in the hut.  Apparently there weren't any other permanent moorers there at the time, but I've been notified of two vacancies since.

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2 minutes ago, Mac of Cygnet said:

  The chap on the permanent mooring wasn't on his boat, but I was given his name and it wasn't Pedro! I made the mooring arrangements with a lady in the hut.  Apparently there weren't any other permanent moorers there at the time, but I've been notified of two vacancies since.

He's either left ot or I got wrong name. I've always thought what a nice job it would be. 

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On 19 January 2018 at 23:17, Jenwil said:

Aggressive tone?

Im telling it like it is plain and simple, I’m not here for this cock and ball.

People like Mike and Arthur are passive aggressive they hide on Internet forums and spout this nonsense when on the tow path they will say nothing because they know they will be told where to run and jump.

If the reality of that tone offends you hurry up because I only have two ends to that middle finger as frankly I’m not assed and will not tolerate double standards from plastic boaters who are the biggest p takers themselves.

‘Reasonable in the circumstances’

you’ll get there in the end love if only you would stop with the double standards, yeah we know who you are and your game.

Is Jenlyn really missmax, the language is so alike, I find it really amusing.

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