jddevel Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 Prompted by a comment on another topic I suddenly realized that as my first boat which is a sailaway and I am obviously aware of what I`ve installed. However hull builder had engine installed. Questions is what would contributors recommend as a list of spares. Engine Beta 38 I would be advised to carry without requiring a "butty" to hold it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Brooks Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 Spare control cable & alternator belt/belts. Topping up oil for gearbox and engine. Many people carry service spares like filters but as the service interval is slightly flexible they can always be bought as and when required. Then things like self amalgamating "rubber" tape to effect a temporary cure on burst/chaffed hoses, a selection of nuts, bolts and washers, silicon sealer, PTFE tape, a selection of wiring terminals and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 (edited) 41 minutes ago, jddevel said: Questions is what would contributors recommend as a list of spares I work on the principle that if I can get electricity and heat / hot water/cold water we can survive for ’days’ whilst awaiting repair of gearbox, replacement prop etc. That means I carry spares to keep the engine running and generating heat and power.: Starter motor Alternator Fan belts Hoses Filters Raw water pump Cable ties, hose clips, self-amalgamating tape, wire & cables, scotchloks, choc-blocks, fuses, insulating tape, string, bits of metal (to make brackets), assorted nuts & bolts. Bits of wood, assorted hose / rubber pipes and fittings to be able to run fuel from a jerry can to the filters, Throttle/gear cables. Domestic water pump Tool box full of tools to install all the above + any specialist tools that a ‘repair man’ may not have, Socket set, Screwdrivers, Hacksaws. Battery drill, & 220v Drill (+ wood and HSS drill bits) Jerry can (20 litres) spare (clean) fuel Edited November 4, 2017 by Alan de Enfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mross Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 A selection of 'O' rings; Jubilee clips, cable ties, plastic metal or two-part epoxy for bodging, socket set, pliers, screwdrivers, small hacksaw, BA bolts and nuts.......................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boat&Bikes Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 With a new beta I'd bet a few Bob it will require nothing but routine maintenance in its first few thousand miles. Maybe a belt change at worst. I do carry much of the stuff in the above replies, but have yet to have needed any of it. Ian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmelly Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 22 minutes ago, ianali said: With a new beta I'd bet a few Bob it will require nothing but routine maintenance in its first few thousand miles. Maybe a belt change at worst. I do carry much of the stuff in the above replies, but have yet to have needed any of it. Ian. Completely agree it is after all a Japanese engine not some ancient British crap. However I carry many differing spares to do with the boat systems including at least half a dozen oil/air filters as they are cheap at a motor factors rather than as a one off from a boatyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzard Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 A Hanky to tie reminder knots in. Elastic bands can be very useful for temporarily securing things, I've saved stacks of them. but keep them in the dark until needed, they don't last long once the daylight gets at em, they have a special deteriant in them so you have to keep buying more, the ones that the postmen scatter all over the place are particularly so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 5 minutes ago, bizzard said: A Hanky to tie reminder knots in. Elastic bands can be very useful for temporarily securing things, I've saved stacks of them. but keep them in the dark until needed, they don't last long once the daylight gets at em, they have a special deteriant in them so you have to keep buying more, the ones that the postmen scatter all over the place are particularly so. Keep rubber bands in the fridge or freezer and they’ll last for years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 1 hour ago, bizzard said: , the ones that the postmen scatter all over the place are particularly so. Yes, they are OK if you get them fresh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzard Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 57 minutes ago, WotEver said: Keep rubber bands in the fridge or freezer and they’ll last for years! I might mistake them for noodles or Squid rings in the dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwatch Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 We were being assisted up the Wigan flight by a local volocky. He asked my southern bred wife if she had a spur, pointing at a windlass. She hadn't a clue what he was asking. Took three attempts for it to click. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mross Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 Lots of spare parts will never get used but you'll be glad of them if you need one on a cold, wet night in the middle of nowhere. It's very frustrating to be stuck just for want of a single 'O'-ring, hose clip! Remember, never change a fuel filter unless you are near a pub. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artleknock Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 I emptied my tool bag out last week to see what was in there. The most used tools were a pipe wrench, shifting spanner and knife. There was also about a kilo of dirt - dust, wood shavings and metal cuttings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmelly Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 9 minutes ago, mross said: Remember, never change a fuel filter unless you are near a pub. How very true, good advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve hayes Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 21 minutes ago, mross said: Remember, never change a fuel filter unless you are near a pub. Or wherever the boat decides that you have to...I my case under Spaghetti junction in September. Thats when you’re glad that you carry spares.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Bebb Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 Just join the RCR let them fix it if you brake down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 30 minutes ago, Dave Bebb said: Just join the RCR let them fix it if you brake down Did you read the recent thread where RCR took over a week to order a part and repair the boat. Surely if you 'can' it is better to sort yourself out and get underway in a few minutes. I bet you are one of ’those’ who call the AA to change your wheel when you get a puncture. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuthound Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 I think it is sensible to carry spares to help you continue your journey as quicky possible. Mind you that 4 cylinder Beta JD3 engine mentioned in this thread was a bit over the top... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 4 hours ago, bizzard said: A Hanky to tie reminder knots in. Elastic bands can be very useful for temporarily securing things, I've saved stacks of them. but keep them in the dark until needed, they don't last long once the daylight gets at em, they have a special deteriant in them so you have to keep buying more, the ones that the postmen scatter all over the place are particularly so. Pity the elastic bands the post office Please ignore my previous post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuthound Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, Slim said: Pity the elastic bands the post office Please ignore my previous post I quite like the free electric band... https://g.co/kgs/FMKwpW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray T Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 (edited) Tools to get crap collected on the blades off: Bolt croppers. Sharp knife - Swiss Army type are useful. Small bill hook Butchers chain mail glove. Water can get cold and you can loose the feeling in your hands and not realise you may have cut yourself. Magnet and length of rope to recover windlass, mooring stakes and goat chains etc. Edited November 4, 2017 by Ray T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob-M Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 3 hours ago, mross said: Remember, never change a fuel filter unless you are near a pub. So you can have a few beers whilst someone else changes the filter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuthound Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 19 minutes ago, Ray T said: Tools to get crap collected on the blades off: Bolt croppers. Sharp knife - Swiss Army type are useful. Small bill hook Butchers chain mail glove. Water can get cold and you can loose the feeling in your hands and not realise you may have cut yourself. Magnet and length of rope to recover windlass, mooring stakes and goat chains etc. In winter I pour a kettle full of boiling water down the weed hatch before plunging my hands in, it makes the cut water surprisingly warm for couple of minutes, enabling you to feel things with your fingers. Repeat as necessary for longer jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bricksh Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 If your beta has a poly v belt and idler roller (mine had 2 because of travel power alternator) then some high temperature bearings for the idler rollers. I had several failures of these and thats a kin to fan belt failure ie no water pump/charging etc (never had the fan belt go) Addiing to the lists already posted A grease gun, magnetic pick up tool, good filter removal tool like a boa, good thick jump leads, inspection mirror, magnetic LED inspection lamp. What I have found on boats I have owned is that good tools that fit well are invaluable, as you are often working at arms length, blind or in limited space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, Nightwatch said: We were being assisted up the Wigan flight by a local volocky. He asked my southern bred wife if she had a spur, pointing at a windlass. She hadn't a clue what he was asking. Took three attempts for it to click. Lol. We once came home to excited young kids saying they'd made "furry cakes" with Lorraine the nanny that day. WTF? We thought! Then we realised, Lorraine is from Liverpool. Edited November 4, 2017 by Mike the Boilerman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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