Rivets?

[alan_fincher]

12 minutes ago, Peter X said:

There are some good reasons not to fully load a GU boat.

2. It wouldn't get anywhere on most canals, it'd be aground all the time. Many canal pubs have photos or paintings on the walls of fully loaded boats under way, but I think they're all old, dating from when there was more depth. When did anyone last take a fully loaded GU boat the length of the GU I wonder?

If you mean Brentford to Brum, I can't imagine it happens very often, as I can't think of traffics where it might.

However, wy no means as fully laden as is possible, but the 2010 carriage of gravel from Brentford to Mancetter, (I think) on the Coventry saw some fairly heavily loaded ex-GUCCCo boats do what was by modern standards a long run .....

Edited September 21, 2017 by alan_fincher

[Ray T]

2 hours ago, alan_fincher said:

If you mean Brentford to Brum, I can't imagine it happens very often, as I can't think of traffics where it might.
However, wy no means as fully laden as is possible, but the 2010 carriage of gravel from Brentford to Mancetter, (I think) on the Coventry saw some fairly heavily loaded ex-GUCCCo boats do what was by modern standards a long run .....

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Edited September 21, 2017 by Ray T

[Victor Vectis]

18 hours ago, Goliath said:

These are genuine casts from 19th century rivets.

Ahh, yes.

But I have half a dozen gen-u-ine Hudson fake rivets!

[David Mack]

2 hours ago, Peter X said:

When did anyone last take a fully loaded GU boat the length of the GU I wonder?

 

How close to the bank would you like to go?

(OK - not a GU boat. Barlow's Admiral at Braunston, June 2011)

18 hours ago, Goliath said:

Well, as you know, I have made some plaster casts of my rivets, with the idea to sell them to the likes of you. It's a £1per rivet or £5 for 3.  They can be blue tacked on, nailed, or hung down on string ( for removal when entering locks, so you dont damage them). 

These are genuine casts from 19th century rivets.

I can also cast rope marks just to add that extra authenticity. 

 

Instant stick-on rivets.  Available in brown and white.

[alan_fincher]

27 minutes ago, David Mack said:

How close to the bank would you like to go?

Instant stick-on rivets.  Available in brown and white.

Those would look a great deal more authentic than many.

Presumably what held Chocolate Charlie Atkins' boat together?

[dmr]

On 20/09/2017 at 14:50, dmr said:

A boaty boat? One that could turn up at a historic boat rally and it would take more than a second to work out it didn't belong there???   Went past a quite faded and grubby Hudson last year and I had to look for quite a while to work out what is was, quite a pleasing boat.

 

Am currently in Birmingham and there is a whole load of historic working boat loitering above Farmers, likely on route to the black country museum. After a good long look I realised one of them was a actually Northwich Trader (lots of rivets) so I reckon my definition is about right. I think its butty was genuine though.

..............Dave

[Rob-M]

30 minutes ago, dmr said:

Am currently in Birmingham and there is a whole load of historic working boat loitering above Farmers, likely on route to the black country museum. After a good long look I realised one of them was a actually Northwich Trader (lots of rivets) so I reckon my definition is about right. I think its butty was genuine though.

..............Dave

Sounds like that could be Michael Pinnock senior's RW Davis boat Alder.

[dmr]

1 minute ago, Rob-M said:

Sounds like that could be Michael Pinnock senior's RW Davis boat Alder.

Thats the one, nice looking boat, dark gloss green whilst most Traders are painted in red oxide or other matt colours. It did not look at all out of place amongst the proper old boats.

...........Dave

[Rob-M]

31 minutes ago, dmr said:

Thats the one, nice looking boat, dark gloss green whilst most Traders are painted in red oxide or other matt colours. It did not look at all out of place amongst the proper old boats.

...........Dave

Yes it is very nice. We were moored behind him earlier in the year at Stourport. 

[roland elsdon]

If you load a town class  motor the distribution of draft changes more than the overall draft. That's why many ballast the bow. I put 14 tons on thaxted on one occasion. It simply meant that the rubbish got pushed through the bridges rather than the upwards bounce that happens as the bottom roughly in front of the engine hole clouts the rock shopping trolley car safe car or whatever is in the cut. Loaded down by the head they steer very well. It's evidenced in the pictures.

[mark99]

8 hours ago, alan_fincher said:

 

snippy

 

 

Not quite "sparra's" but getting there!

Edited September 21, 2017 by mark99

[mark99]

7000 if you can find them.

 

http://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/boat.phtml?id=518854

[JamesWoolcock]

On 9/21/2017 at 00:24, JamesWoolcock said:

 

 

Edited September 21, 2017 by JamesWoolcock
Error!

[beerbeerbeerbeerbeer]

 

Edited September 22, 2017 by Goliath
Better photo than other one

[Ray T]

Gosh this thread is riveting stuff, I can hardly tear myself away! 

Edited September 22, 2017 by Ray T

[alan_fincher]

3 hours ago, Goliath said:

 

You are supposed to rivet the anodes on (!)

[beerbeerbeerbeerbeer]

 

Ha, maybe next time. (The velcro still holding out)

[alan_fincher]

5 minutes ago, Goliath said:

 

Ha, maybe next time. (The velcro still holding out)

I'll admit Velcro does make changing them over far quicker!

[mark99]

As long as velcro does not prevent the cicuit being complete.

[blackrose]

Personally I don't really understand the problem some people have or the ongoing jokes made about fake rivets. These boats are made to vaguely resemble working boats, so in that sense isn't the entire concept fake? The "rivets" seem insignificant in that context.

[roland elsdon]

I have a josher motor I keep in the ticket drawer. It only needs another 6999.5 rivets and a bit of steel to complete the job. Nearly threw it at someone who was throwing stones at us  but strangely found the odd marble in there instead,. If I had thrown it by mistake another boat would have been lost..