Athy Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 2 hours ago, homer2911 said: Can we please see examples of any art produced by those posters taking the mick? I can criticise an egg even though I couldn't lay a better one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 On 8/13/2017 at 21:19, matty40s said: I visited an art gallery today and amongst the eclectic mix was a selection of landscapes including these two. Challenge, name the locations which the paintings were labelled. Looks like Stoke Bruerne to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 12 hours ago, Graham and Jo said: The curvy bits at the front are always the hardest I think. You can't construct them with a pencil and ruler. I was trying to learn to paint so I could do model railway back scenes when I did this one. It took forever - a triumph of tiny brush stokes. I had a play with pastels one day, I was trying for cubism but it didn't quite work out. Can anyone guess where this is? Cheers Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlt Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 9 hours ago, homer2911 said: Can we please see examples of any art produced by those posters taking the mick? My ability to criticise art is not restricted to other folk's work. I am fully capable of assessing my own efforts as no better than the ones in the OP and would expect the same responses if I had the brass neck to air them in public. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Pegg Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 1 hour ago, NickF said: Looks like Stoke Bruerne to me. I have spent a number of hours at that very location during the past month and I genuinely didn't recognise it. It doesn't capture the character of the place in any way. It looks like the cottages have been reimagined by Barratt Homes in-house artist. Surely as an artist if you aren't intending to capture a detailed likeness you have to capture the character instead? The unnatural viewpoint doesn't help. JP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerra Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 19 minutes ago, Captain Pegg said: Surely as an artist if you aren't intending to capture a detailed likeness you have to capture the character instead? As Melvyn Bragg said in our school magazine many many years ago "If you want a horse to look like a horse, see a photographer". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tam & Di Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Captain Pegg said: Surely as an artist if you aren't intending to capture a detailed likeness you have to capture the character instead? Unfortunately I couldn't get a decent photo as it's behind glass and I couldn't control reflections. It was on 2 x A3? sheets, one over the other landscape, mounted on board 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer2911 Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 9 hours ago, Athy said: I can criticise an egg even though I couldn't lay a better one. I get it - you may lack the qualifications to be an art critic, but you feel free to hold forth anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 On 16/08/2017 at 09:35, homer2911 said: I get it - you may lack the qualifications to be an art critic, but you feel free to hold forth anyway Very droll. No, I don't think you do "get it": anyone who eats an egg is qualified to comment upon it, or "hold forth" as you put it. Similarly, anyone who looks at a picture, or listens to a piece of music, can comment upon it - as I have been doing professionally for over 40 years. Is that not sufficient qualification? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Pegg Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 17 minutes ago, Tam & Di said: Unfortunately I couldn't get a decent photo as it's behind glass and I couldn't control reflections. It was on 2 x A3? sheets, one over the other landscape, mounted on board Stourbridge. Not a doubt in my mind. I like it, It's all about what it says to the viewer. It has an essence of something I can relate to and a nice dose of imagination. As a general point rather than in direct response I don't consider I am critiquing the original pieces. It's just that one of them doesn't capture the essence of the subject as far as I am concerned and I wouldn't part with my own money for it. Maybe someone else would? JP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenataomm Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 4 hours ago, homer2911 said: I get it - you may lack the qualifications to be an art critic, but you feel free to hold forth anyway Since when has someone needed a qualification in order to have an opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlt Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, homer2911 said: I get it - you may lack the qualifications to be an art critic, but you feel free to hold forth anyway I'd be interested to learn what qualifications are required to be an art critic... Perhaps the one actually "holding forth" is the one who wishes to suppress opinion and discussion. If you like it then "hold forth" (whether or not you feel qualified) and present a balanced view rather than just whining on about others expressing their opinion. Edited August 16, 2017 by carlt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, carlt said: I'd be interested to learn what qualifications are required to be an art critic... Master's and/or doctoral degree in art or art history http://study.com/articles/Art_Critic_Job_Description_Duties_and_Salary.html Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham and Jo Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 (edited) Art is entirely subjective of course. I paint as a hobby and usually my paintings don't go public. Some of Jo's do and sell - we always feel she sells a feeling or an emotion not a painting. If it makes you feel something you like it is good. I was inspired by something I saw in the Royal Academy's Summer Exhibition, it was next to the £25000 litter bin I think. (yes there was one!) . The painting merged 3D and 2D forms. I can do that I thought. So here it is, a subject you all know well now and all have an opinion on. Stoke Bruerne. The painting is all inside the back of a box canvas so is about an inch deep - the challenge was to make a semi 2D background with a 3D lock in front and maintain the perspective. There are a few reflections in the way I'm afraid. I've also taken a movie of it to try and give you the idea. It is on you tube here. Cheers Graham Edited August 16, 2017 by Graham and Jo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlt Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 4 hours ago, Tam & Di said: Unfortunately I couldn't get a decent photo as it's behind glass and I couldn't control reflections. It was on 2 x A3? sheets, one over the other landscape, mounted on board I like this one very much... It brings to mind Ken Keay's Sketchbook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlt Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 (edited) 24 minutes ago, RLWP said: Master's and/or doctoral degree in art or art history http://study.com/articles/Art_Critic_Job_Description_Duties_and_Salary.html Richard or alternatively... Quote Matthew Collings (TV art critic) missed secondary education, receiving therapy instead at the Finchden Manor Community, a haven for disturbed teenage boys established by G.A.Lyward, Edited August 16, 2017 by carlt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 Much the same thing Richard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob-M Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 3 hours ago, Graham and Jo said: Art is entirely subjective of course. I paint as a hobby and usually my paintings don't go public. Some of Jo's do and sell - we always feel she sells a feeling or an emotion not a painting. If it makes you feel something you like it is good. I was inspired by something I saw in the Royal Academy's Summer Exhibition, it was next to the £25000 litter bin I think. (yes there was one!) . The painting merged 3D and 2D forms. I can do that I thought. So here it is, a subject you all know well now and all have an opinion on. Stoke Bruerne. The painting is all inside the back of a box canvas so is about an inch deep - the challenge was to make a semi 2D background with a 3D lock in front and maintain the perspective. There are a few reflections in the way I'm afraid. I've also taken a movie of it to try and give you the idea. It is on you tube here. Cheers Graham That looks very effective especially in the video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 4 hours ago, carlt said: . It brings to mind Ken Keay's Sketchbook. Now that is art I could look at all day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham and Jo Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Rob-M said: That looks very effective especially in the video. Thanks, this is the one painting of mine that actually has been in a exhibition. Cheers Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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