MtB Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 Yes it's a tricky one isn't it? If (hypotherically) the yard is owed a pile of money in unpaid mooring fees but get no response writing to the owner, should they actually want the boat back? On one hand, they can perhaps arrest the boat and/or set up a lien on it for the continuingly accrueing unpaid mooring fees. On the other hand they might prefer to get rid of the boat and rent the space to a hassle-free paying moorer. In which case how does one get rid of a boat when the owner cannot be reached? One idea would be to tow it a few miles up the cut and moor it on the towpath, then 'discover' it has been unfortunately 'stolen' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Dog Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, Mike the Boilerman said: One idea would be to tow it a few miles up the cut and moor it on the towpath, then 'discover' it has been unfortunately 'stolen' Shhhh!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 On 11/05/2017 at 12:02, mross said: Open the link and then press CTRL+F and enter lien in the search box. The word occurs many times. Ok thanks, I was wondering how to search web page for a word! I am however, none the wiser about how a lien is created. I very much doubt a lien existed in the case of this stolen boat. If there was, I suspect lawyers would have been instructed rather than posts on facebook about it being stolen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodGurl Posted May 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 Blisworth Tunnel Narrowboats 1 hr · Blisworth · Possible sighting bridge 45 yesterday north of the boat yard 1.30 pm....people washing the boat down possibly polish.....maybe before trying to paint?.....so could be a differant colour...red oxide, grey, green , black?...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mross Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 10 minutes ago, Mike the Boilerman said: Ok thanks, I was wondering how to search web page for a word! CTRL+F works in most programs on windows and most browsers, unless you are a Fanboy! Then it is Command+F, 'Command' being a key with a silly symbol on it IIRC. https://medium.com/technology-and-language/what-is-apples-command-key-all-about-fe6f9410405e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllanC Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 seems its been found and returned. Copied from the Blisworth FB page. "Boat found bridge 42.....on its way back.....many thanks to the grass cutting contractors who found it....and christine and the blokes who visited us this morning as it was that one they told us about....cheers......dont let the thieves win.....they left a canoe and a bike on the roof so nick the owner has gained and not lost as there his now.......description of theives, bald head ,tattoos ,polish accent ...with 2 girls dark haired........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacka Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 37 minutes ago, GoodGurl said: Blisworth Tunnel Narrowboats 1 hr · Blisworth · Possible sighting bridge 45 yesterday north of the boat yard 1.30 pm....people washing the boat down possibly polish.....maybe before trying to paint?.....so could be a differant colour...red oxide, grey, green , black?...... Just clicked on the Blisworth link above, couldn't see anything about stolen boats, but there was an advert for "Northampton Escorts deliver remarkable company for all types of gentlemen." I think I'll stick to boating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac of Cygnet Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 10 minutes ago, AllanC said: seems its been found and returned. Copied from the Blisworth FB page. "Boat found bridge 42.....on its way back.....many thanks to the grass cutting contractors who found it....and christine and the blokes who visited us this morning as it was that one they told us about....cheers......dont let the thieves win.....they left a canoe and a bike on the roof so nick the owner has gained and not lost as there his now.......description of theives, bald head ,tattoos ,polish accent ...with 2 girls dark haired........ Perhaps 'Nick' could sell the bike and canoe and put it towards his licence and mooring? What I really mean is does anyone believe any of this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodGurl Posted May 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 Boat has been found Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Dog Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 12 minutes ago, AllanC said: description of theives, bald head ,tattoos ,polish accent ... This thread has gone from wild speculation to wild accusation. I have Portuguese friends who tell me they're frequently mistaken for Russian speakers - how many British folk could discern a Polish accent from one of many similar accents from other eastern European countries and many outside of the area? Still, let's not let such a minor detail stand in the way, eh? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Payne Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Sea Dog said: This thread has gone from wild speculation to wild accusation. I have Portuguese friends who tell me they're frequently mistaken for Russian speakers - how many British folk could discern a Polish accent from one of many similar accents from other eastern European countries and many outside of the area? Still, let's not let such a minor detail stand in the way, eh? Standard Canalworld, usual suspects and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 Reported on Facebook as now being found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Brooks Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Mike the Boilerman said: Ok thanks, I was wondering how to search web page for a word! I am however, none the wiser about how a lien is created. I very much doubt a lien existed in the case of this stolen boat. If there was, I suspect lawyers would have been instructed rather than posts on facebook about it being stolen. Again from memory. If you are owed money for carrying our work to which a lien can be applied, and I think it would have to be repairs,not just providing a mooring, then if the customer declines to pay you can refuse to release the boat/ca/whatever to them. You will be holding under a lien. I do not think it involves courts and lawyers unless the customer challenges you. Bit hard in your job though Mike unless they carry a boiler into your workshop Edited May 11, 2017 by Tony Brooks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tree monkey Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, Sea Dog said: This thread has gone from wild speculation to wild accusation. I have Portuguese friends who tell me they're frequently mistaken for Russian speakers - how many British folk could discern a Polish accent from one of many similar accents from other eastern European countries and many outside of the area? Still, let's not let such a minor detail stand in the way, eh? When i had a bimble through Poland, this was just after the wall came down, i was mistaken for German which wasn't a problem but i was also mistaken for a Scouser which is something i have never forgiven them for 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cereal tiller Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 13 minutes ago, tree monkey said: When i had a bimble through Poland, this was just after the wall came down, i was mistaken for German which wasn't a problem but i was also mistaken for a Scouser which is something i have never forgiven them for Rather clever getting a Solar Panel through Customs,thought only Scousers could do that sort of thing? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul C Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 33 minutes ago, Chewbacka said: Just clicked on the Blisworth link above, couldn't see anything about stolen boats, but there was an advert for "Northampton Escorts deliver remarkable company for all types of gentlemen." I think I'll stick to boating. Adverts aren't fixed to the article on Facebook, but are custom-selected for each visitor based on their internet browsing habits. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 51 minutes ago, Paul C said: Adverts aren't fixed to the article on Facebook, but are custom-selected for each visitor based on their internet browsing habits. "No mate, all I was doing was an internet search for "Ford Escort with good bodywork". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 2 hours ago, Mike the Boilerman said: Yes it's a tricky one isn't it? If (hypotherically) the yard is owed a pile of money in unpaid mooring fees but get no response writing to the owner, should they actually want the boat back? On one hand, they can perhaps arrest the boat and/or set up a lien on it for the continuingly accrueing unpaid mooring fees. On the other hand they might prefer to get rid of the boat and rent the space to a hassle-free paying moorer. In which case how does one get rid of a boat when the owner cannot be reached? One idea would be to tow it a few miles up the cut and moor it on the towpath, then 'discover' it has been unfortunately 'stolen' Shades of the 'lightship' in Liverpool - no pay moorings, take away & sold to cover debt. We have a similar clause in our static caravan park conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Alan de Enfield said: Shades of the 'lightship' in Liverpool - no pay moorings, take away & sold to cover debt. We have a similar clause in our static caravan park conditions. So the adjective "static" is not necessarily accurate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machpoint005 Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 2 hours ago, Scholar Gypsy said: Reminds me of my one sailing holiday, on West Coast of Scotland. One of the crew (not me) failed to secure the dinghy, when we went to the pub. The tide came further up the slipway than anticipated. So we got another boater to give us a lift back. The skipper was very sure to make sure he was first on board, to get his hand on the mast first, and so ensure that the other boater (who I must say seemed very friendly) did not claim salvage! We found the dinghy in the morning a few hundred yards away ... I thought 24 hours had to elapse before salvage could be claimed? Perhaps I am 200 years out of date... 4 minutes ago, Athy said: So the adjective "static" is not necessarily accurate? It's not literally accurate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 8 minutes ago, Athy said: So the adjective "static" is not necessarily accurate? To be a caravan it MUST by law have wheels and be capable of movement. 'Static caravan' is purely to differentiate it from a 'touring caravan' Caravan refers to any building that’s designed to be lived in and can be transported by road in one or two sections. The term ‘Caravan’ covers traditional touring caravans, static caravans and mobile/park homes. Touring caravans, motor homes and caravan holiday homes and collectively know as Leisure Accommodation Vehicles (LAV). Twin-size mobile homes are referred to as Residential Park Homes (RPH).Touring Caravans are designed to be towed behind a road vehicle. They are built to BS EN 1645 and must meet the requirements for the construction and use of road vehicles. Motor-caravans incorporate the living accommodation similar to that of a touring caravan onto a motor base vehicle and are therefore designed specifically for touring. They are built to BS EN 1646 and must meet the requirements for the construction and use of road vehicles.Static caravans, also called holiday caravans and single units, are designed to be moved in one complete section but don’t need to be road legal. Because of their size and weight they are delivered and moved by transporters. They are manufactured with wheels solely to maneuver on site. They are built to BS EN 1647. Mobile homes, known as twin-units, should be moved in no more than two sections. They are usually transported by road by two transporters. When a twin-unit mobile home is joined on-site it must remain divisible for transport. Park Homes are single or twin units designed for permanent residential accommodation. They are still caravans, even though they have pitched tiled roofs and may appear similar to a bungalow. They are built to BS 3632. Whole different tax regime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, Mike the Boilerman said: ^^^^ This ^^^^ Yes this seems the most likely scenario. Blissworth Tunnel Boats are owed a pile of dosh in unpaid mooring fees and have just noticed the boat is gone, along with all chance of collecting the debt. This would explain why the owner is not the one posting here claiming his boat has been nicked. The owner is probably the one who took it, which is why BTB are asking for help finding the boat. They want to find the owner. I have seen most that suggests Blisworth Tunnel Boat s have any interest in the boat beyond knowing some of the back story. The boat was not moored at BTB, but at an offside mooring the other side of the road bridge. A huge amount of speculation in this thread, almost none of which seems to be supported by any known facts. That's CWDF for you these days though! 4 hours ago, Mike the Boilerman said: 4 hours ago, Mike the Boilerman said: Edited May 11, 2017 by alan_fincher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, alan_fincher said: That's CWDF for you these days though! 6 minutes ago, alan_fincher said: That's CWDF for you these days though! 6 minutes ago, alan_fincher said: That's CWDF for you these days though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmr Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 3 hours ago, Scholar Gypsy said: Reminds me of my one sailing holiday, on West Coast of Scotland. One of the crew (not me) failed to secure the dinghy, when we went to the pub. The tide came further up the slipway than anticipated. So we got another boater to give us a lift back. The skipper was very sure to make sure he was first on board, to get his hand on the mast first, and so ensure that the other boater (who I must say seemed very friendly) did not claim salvage! We found the dinghy in the morning a few hundred yards away ... I have also been told that if you ask for a tow you should throw them your rope rather than accepting their rope (or is it t'other way about?) for a similar reason. Lumpy water sailors are very wary of the salvage thing. ..............Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keeping Up Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 Isn't it rather odd if it disappeared from Blisworth and was last seen leaving Stoke Bruerne locks, that it was found at bridge 42 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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