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Safe passing distance for towpath users

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catweasel    435

Having just read this article West Midlands Police target drivers too close to cyclists

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-37384899what do you think the safe distance for the cyclist to pass someone on the towpath. And will the CRT police it !!!!

Will CRT police it? Not a hope in hell!! :)

Hard to say what a safe distance is. Depends on a few circumstances, but I would say the most important thing is that a pedestrian is aware the cyclist is present. Or put it differently "Use a freakin bell!" I cycle (and walk) on towpaths, but would never pass a pedestrian unless they were aware of my presence. I find that most cyclists are fine, but human nature being what it is, we tend to remember the idiots.

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Jerra    619

I wouldn't know on a towpath but round here there are a lot of roads which will have strings of traffic slowly following a cyclist as there isn't room to pass with those margins.

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spadefoot    65

I wouldn't know on a towpath but round here there are a lot of roads which will have strings of traffic slowly following a cyclist as there isn't room to pass with those margins.

If cars weren't so wide, the problem wouldn't arise.

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Daz555    0

I wouldn't know on a towpath but round here there are a lot of roads which will have strings of traffic slowly following a cyclist as there isn't room to pass with those margins.

Indeed. Still the more people that get on their bikes as a result of not worrying so much about being killed to death, the better for traffic flow as there will be fewer cars....which in turn reduces further the danger to cyclists and encourages even more people onto two wheels.

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Murflynn    437

Indeed. Still the more people get off their bikes and walk - which we have evolved to do very efficiently, the better for traffic flow as there will be less differential speed on the towpath, the 'shared' (illegally) pavement, and shopping precincts ......... which in turn reduces further the danger to pedestrians and encourages even more people onto their feet.

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Jerra    619

Indeed. Still the more people that get on their bikes as a result of not worrying so much about being killed to death, the better for traffic flow as there will be fewer cars....which in turn reduces further the danger to cyclists and encourages even more people onto two wheels.

The problem being that up here a bike isn't a practical form of transport apart from leisure. Distances are too great. So more bikes more disruption to traffic.

 

Incidentally I like the phrase "killed to death" I wasn't aware you could be killed any other way other than to death, but I like the sound of killed to death.

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welly    1

The problem being that up here a bike isn't a practical form of transport apart from leisure. Distances are too great. So more bikes more disruption to traffic.

 

Incidentally I like the phrase "killed to death" I wasn't aware you could be killed any other way other than to death, but I like the sound of killed to death.

 

Not sure I'd agree with that. Bikes are perfect commuting vehicles, as I'd wager the vast majority of people live less than 10km/8 miles of their work, which is easily commutable on bike. I've been doing this for many years now. Of course, if you fill a road with bikes rather than cars, you'll still have a traffic problem. But with the right ratio of bikes to cars/buses on the road, commuting by bike to work saves many people a lot of time.

 

Edit. Sorry, missed "up here".

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Jerra    619

 

Not sure I'd agree with that. Bikes are perfect commuting vehicles, as I'd wager the vast majority of people live less than 10km/8 miles of their work, which is easily commutable on bike. I've been doing this for many years now. Of course, if you fill a road with bikes rather than cars, you'll still have a traffic problem. But with the right ratio of bikes to cars/buses on the road, commuting by bike to work saves many people a lot of time.

 

Edit. Sorry, missed "up here".

Glad you realised the "up here".

 

To give two examples I worked with people one came from 70 miles north to work the other from 70 miles south. A second example I was at a meeting last night and I wouldn't have fancied setting off on a nearly 30 mile cycle at after 9:30pm on a cold wet night.

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Jerra    619

well he is located in the colonies so his experiences are a bit parochial and hardly representative. cool.png

No no not the colonies, the centre of the universe!

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Indeed. Still the more people that get on their bikes as a result of not worrying so much about being killed to death, the better for traffic flow as there will be fewer cars....which in turn reduces further the danger to cyclists and encourages even more people onto two wheels.

Two wheels are good, but you need a right big engine to make them turn at a proper speed.

 

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F DRAYKE    31

Near Oxford, repairs being made to the tow path, large sign with 6in letters asking cyclists to dismount, you guessed it, the colleges must only be teaching two of the Rs these days.

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Heartland    18

The use of bicycles on the canal towpath has been a practice carried on by some people long before BW chose to promote it. Though some canal companies chose to prohibit it they were often used by staff to get to work on others. Whether they rode their bikes on the towpath, and just wheeled them, is another matter, though. It could be a useful practice that cyclists could be restricted to specific lanes on the towpath, if wide enough, but then such infrastructure would be at a cost. From another viewpoint some towpaths have been improved for the cyclist and this has been beneficial to all towpath users 

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Jerra    619
5 hours ago, Heartland said:

 From another viewpoint some towpaths have been improved for the cyclist and this has been beneficial to all towpath users 

Or would be if it wasn't for the few who insist on using them as a race track.

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Sir Nibble    784

I know a main road with, from left to right a cycle path about 2 metres, foot path about one metre, grass verge about one metre, kerb, another cycle path for another metre then the carriageway. So cyclists can choose their own passing distance. Guess where most of them ride, oh, forgot to make clear, that's ONE side of the road.

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Jerra    619
28 minutes ago, Sir Nibble said:

I know a main road with, from left to right a cycle path about 2 metres, foot path about one metre, grass verge about one metre, kerb, another cycle path for another metre then the carriageway. So cyclists can choose their own passing distance. Guess where most of them ride, oh, forgot to make clear, that's ONE side of the road.

Human nature being what it is probably in the road.

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Hudds Lad    14

I've been cycling on towpaths for 20 years or so, never had one accident (well, apart from the near miss when I was trying to avoid a puddle and nearly went in the cut which my wife delights in telling anyone who'll listen about) but that's because I have consideration for other towpath users. Sadly, I come into contact with lots of cyclists who do not.

Mostly with bikes on towpaths, it's the Strava idiots on their thousand-pound-plus full-suspension bikes going at mach 3 with no bell or warnings chucking energy gel wrappers wherever they see fit. Perhaps CR&T could get Strava to remove any segments from towpaths so they have nothing to try and gain, but I doubt it.

With any activity there'll always be a minority who spoil it for the majority, sadly I just can't see an easy solution.

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Sir Nibble    784
17 hours ago, Jerra said:

Human nature being what it is probably in the road.

That's right. I believe that many cyclists are totally oblivious to signage of any kind and don't see the red surfaces.

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Murflynn    437

cyclists seem to have their own version of human rights.

cyclists can do whatever they like and are untouchable, 'cos they think the sun shines out of their proverbial.

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Hudds Lad    14
1 hour ago, Murflynn said:

cyclists seem to have their own version of human rights.

cyclists can do whatever they like and are untouchable, 'cos they think the sun shines out of their proverbial.

nothing like a sweeping generalisation to go with your cornflakes on a morning

I suppose the comments about "road tax" will get trotted out next :rolleyes:

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cuthound Contributor    330
23 minutes ago, Hudds Lad said:

nothing like a sweeping generalisation to go with your cornflakes on a morning

I suppose the comments about "road tax" will get trotted out next :rolleyes:

Not road tax, but given their potential to damage third parties, cycles should in my opinion carry compulsory registration plates and insurance.

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To unmangle the effects of autocorrect.
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