mark99 Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 Wow impressive moggie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koukouvagia Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 On 10/25/2016 at 08:41, Mike the Boilerman said: Ah but it isn't an advert is it? The boat is not for sale yet. But if it was for sale and this was an advert, this post would in the wrong section and in breach of the site rules. But it isn't so it isn't, if you get my meaning! It's just a notice that this boat will be coming to market soon. Aston is now on Gumtree at £68k. It looks an interesting boat. I know the person who added the hydraulic drive - he based the installation on Hampton's. https://www.gumtree.com/p/boats-kayaks-jet-skis/narrowboat-large-woolwich-butty-historic-72ft-long-7ft-internal-headspace/1276265632 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 5 hours ago, koukouvagia said: Aston is now on Gumtree at £68k. It looks an interesting boat. I know the person who added the hydraulic drive - he based the installation on Hampton's. https://www.gumtree.com/p/boats-kayaks-jet-skis/narrowboat-large-woolwich-butty-historic-72ft-long-7ft-internal-headspace/1276265632 Also on the duck Aston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted November 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Admiral said: Also on the duck Aston Situated on the Kennet & Avon Canal in Wiltshire at present but can be moved easily. A bit unusual on the K&A ? (Sorry! - Couldn't resist!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete harrison Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 On 19/11/2017 at 19:36, magnetman said: I thought he had an e63. Slightly off topic but the E63 was sold in July 2016 at 12 months old and was replaced a few months later by a Jaguar XKR, which in turn has been replaced by another Jaguar XKR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnetman Posted December 2, 2017 Report Share Posted December 2, 2017 On 11/20/2017 at 18:25, alan_fincher said: Situated on the Kennet & Avon Canal in Wiltshire at present but can be moved easily. A bit unusual on the K&A ? (Sorry! - Couldn't resist!) Joking aside Blake's lock is closed until 23rd March 2018 apparently. https://www.gov.uk/guidance/river-thames-conditions-closures-restrictions-and-lock-closures#planned-lock-closures-updated-2-november-2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Brightley Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Bantock butty hull, only £3250. Reg no. 61237. (Canalplan boat listing tells us it's called Whiffler) https://www.apolloduck.com/boat.phtml?id=549987 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Looks like the boat tucked at the back of Swallow Cruisers Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stagedamager Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Isn't this the mk1 bantock which was on the Stratford(?) For a while? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noddyboater Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Looks very much like the early Bantock "St Tudno" that I owned briefly a few years ago. Motorised the same way and fitted with a JP3m, she still had the kinked knees but had been rebottomed/footed in steel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furnessvale Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 12 minutes ago, noddyboater said: Looks very much like the early Bantock "St Tudno" that I owned briefly a few years ago. Motorised the same way and fitted with a JP3m, she still had the kinked knees but had been rebottomed/footed in steel. St Tudno has been completely rebuilt and is now immaculate so that is ruled out. Here it is peeping out from behind my boat at Huddlesford. George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 1 hour ago, stagedamager said: Isn't this the mk1 bantock which was on the Stratford(?) For a while? And around Lapworth if it is the boat I think it is Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrtm Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Depending on condition be a nice butty to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnetman Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 (edited) Almost identical to a boat I owned called "orianne" she was a "mk1 bantock" motorised in the same way but with an anti ventilation plate. Forum member Arnot bought it from me and some interesting info has been added to the historic ships register. Including an unverified claim that she was motorised "in the early or mid 20th century" So were these boats motorised while still trading? I always assumed that it was when they were first used for pleasure boating. I think the claimed age of conversion is incorrect (in the case of Orianne) no date is claimed for he eBay one. Very similar boat except orianne had s steel shoe. Edited December 5, 2017 by magnetman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noddyboater Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 2 hours ago, furnessvale said: St Tudno has been completely rebuilt and is now immaculate so that is ruled out. Here it is peeping out from behind my boat at Huddlesford. George Yes, I realise the boat for sale is certainly not St Tudno unless she's taken a backwards step since I last saw her! I was making the comparison as the bow looks similar and Tudno was confirmed as a very early "Mk 1" bantock. Like the owner of Orianne I'd wondered how early the conversion was done but couldn't find anything on her history at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrtm Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 If its still got the wooden bottom must be quite rare by now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnetman Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 It would be great if someone could restore it retainin the wood bottom and chine . I'm not sure if there are any left like that. It looks like a real museum piece which will most probably be cut and used as the (beautiful) bows of a tug. IMO these are the most attractive bows of any narrow boat. There is just something very satisfactory about them. Really nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrtm Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 15 minutes ago, magnetman said: It would be great if someone could restore it retainin the wood bottom and chine . I'm not sure if there are any left like that. It looks like a real museum piece which will most probably be cut and used as the (beautiful) bows of a tug. IMO these are the most attractive bows of any narrow boat. There is just something very satisfactory about them. Really nice. You are very true, if i was in a position i would have it as its the sort of boat i would be after hull wise. Most boats have had steel replaced and if you ever stear or use a boat with a wooden bottom there far better in the water in my opp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted December 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 If it's £3,250, then it will be £3,250 for a very good reason, and that reason will be a lot mote than putting a new bottom on it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, alan_fincher said: If it's £3,250, then it will be £3,250 for a very good reason, and that reason will be a lot mote than putting a new bottom on it! It seems a pretty honest price compared to some old boats Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted December 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, RLWP said: It seems a pretty honest price compared to some old boats Richard Yes, I don't disagree. I very much doubt it's going to supply anybody with a sound historic boat cheaply though. I'm guessing the agreed purchase price will be largely immaterial when compared to what will need spending on it. Don't forget there has been a proper "Grand Union" on offer at only about twice that amount, and still no takers as far as I know - a much more desirable purchase for most enthusiasts, I would have thought. Certainly if I wanted a butty I'd be closely looking at the £8K one before the £3K one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnetman Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 (edited) But the Bantock isn't a butty. It predates butties because the term butty describes a boat paired with a motor. It was a horse boat. Its advertised as a butty and was probably used as a butty at some stage but as far as I know it was built before the "iron horse" existed. This makes it quite a lot more interesting to history enthusiasts than a 1930s built butty IMO But yes I agree it probably needs a huge amount of work. I'm once bitten twice shy but very tempted to get on a train to have a look at it because these really are wonderful boats. I've been on a GUCCCo butty and I've been in a "mk1" Bantock. I know which one I prefer and by a long way. No comparison for me. Edited December 5, 2017 by magnetman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray T Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 1 hour ago, billybobbooth said: You are very true, if i was in a position i would have it as its the sort of boat i would be after hull wise. Most boats have had steel replaced and if you ever stear or use a boat with a wooden bottom there far better in the water in my opp. Mike H has always said a wooden bottomed boat swims better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted December 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 46 minutes ago, Ray T said: Mike H has always said a wooden bottomed boat swims better. Has he said why? I have heard it before, but I can see very little logical reason why it should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray T Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 50 minutes ago, alan_fincher said: Has he said why? I have heard it before, but I can see very little logical reason why it should. I'll ask him tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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