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She used to have one on the left hand side around about where the "L" of LTD is.

It was commented on here about a year ago but I can't find it.

This thread maybe

http://www.canalworld.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=19771&page=2

Photo nabbed from thread indeed showing porthole in position stated :)

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She used to have one on the left hand side around about where the "L" of LTD is.

It was commented on here about a year ago but I can't find it.

Looking back through my sad but comprehensive photograph collection I have several of BEAULIEU.

 

The porthole beneath the chimney was removed between 1990 ('British Waterways' plain blue livery) and 1992 ('British Waterways' blue and yellow livery).

 

I would date the above photograph as 1982 and it also show the fore end of the Malcolm Pearson built tug TERROR, the original stern end of SALTAIRE and the cabin side of TRENT No. 5 captain.gif

 

edit = under its current ownership BEAULIEU seems to have become rather 'sterile' looking and has lost most of its former 'character' (if that makes sense). I suspect over restoration will account for much of this, but it has changed this boat from one that I once coveted to one I only hold a nostalgic interest in.

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As there is only 1 other complete butty and this would be one without a forcabin. Yes there are other parts or halfs around but there are only 2 full length ones.

 

Dont you think this would make it worth saving?

 

Would love to see that. Here's a couple I took of Monnow passing us.

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As there is only 1 other complete butty and this would be one without a forcabin. Yes there are other parts or halfs around but there are only 2 full length ones.

 

Dont you think this would make it worth saving?

 

Would love to see that. Here's a couple I took of Monnow passing us.

 

that is quite a sight, Id read the post about her having 3/4 of her bow missing but the pictures really bring home exactly what that means.

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that is quite a sight, Id read the post about her having 3/4 of her bow missing but the pictures really bring home exactly what that means.

It is a shame, but I believe the rest is quite sound - it survived the dry dock without incident and the back end has been well restored, although that was some time ago.

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It is a shame, but I believe the rest is quite sound - it survived the dry dock without incident and the back end has been well restored, although that was some time ago.

 

"Monnow" had lost her stern post and all but the keelson and bottoms when I salvaged her in 1978. So all the rear end aft the hold stank will be new build, the sides look the original too, the fore end is much as it was although I think the stem post was good. I hope someone takes the trouble to "take her on" as this is now a unique boat and the only surviving George Hale built boat too.

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IIRC when Dover was first brought to Market following the TV series, the asking price was something like a staggering £145K

 

Since then it has has major steelwork done that clearly needed doing in the first place, but was not done when that price was being asked.

 

It has also had a major refit, that seems to have actually made it both far more practical and probably far more durable inside.

 

Although still not to my taste, at £75K, (presumably with scope to negotiate downwards?), it doesn't seem bad value to how it started off!

Don't forget that a new Russell Newbery, (which is what it was fitted with, despite the "vintage" claim), cost around £20K, or more than a quarter of the current "asking".

 

A great shame, though, that that wide "top plank" is engineered into it so deeply - it ruins the look.

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Anyone selling a converted working boat is entering a specialised market , whether it's converted under clothes or with a box cabin. At the end of the day the history is normally only in the hull and the value probably in the quality of the fit out and the eye of the beholder. I

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Dover is the sort of boat a rich American would buy thinking he/she was buying a piece of original history...

Yeah. I am thinking of buying it, living in the back cabin and selling escorted tours around the Stourport ring to them for £3,000 a week.

 

Might take Beaulieu too.

 

JP

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"Monnow" had lost her stern post and all but the keelson and bottoms when I salvaged her in 1978. So all the rear end aft the hold stank will be new build, the sides look the original too, the fore end is much as it was although I think the stem post was good. I hope someone takes the trouble to "take her on" as this is now a unique boat and the only surviving George Hale built boat too.

That makes sense, she has spent most of the last 15 years partially sunk but regularly pumped out which may have helped to preserve the better portions. Would be great if someone was willing to take on Monnow, she probably looks far worse than she is. I believe Jem Bates surveyed, and carried out some repairs to both Monnow and Umea at Uxbridge at the time of the recent docking.

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IIRC when Dover was first brought to Market following the TV series, the asking price was something like a staggering £145K

 

Since then it has has major steelwork done that clearly needed doing in the first place, but was not done when that price was being asked.

 

It has also had a major refit, that seems to have actually made it both far more practical and probably far more durable inside.

 

Although still not to my taste, at £75K, (presumably with scope to negotiate downwards?), it doesn't seem bad value to how it started off!

 

Don't forget that a new Russell Newbery, (which is what it was fitted with, despite the "vintage" claim), cost around £20K, or more than a quarter of the current "asking".

 

A great shame, though, that that wide "top plank" is engineered into it so deeply - it ruins the look.

When I had DQ surveyed by Craig Allen, he told me that he had "condemned" Dover, when he found it needed £10k's worth of replating.

 

Apparently this was identified buying the making of the TV series, but TV production timescales didn't allow for the work to be done, so they slapped a bit of blacking on and carried on filming.

 

I guess once the series had been made, they forgot to go back and do it...?

 

Edited for spillung herrors.

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That makes sense, she has spent most of the last 15 years partially sunk but regularly pumped out which may have helped to preserve the better portions. Would be great if someone was willing to take on Monnow, she probably looks far worse than she is. I believe Jem Bates surveyed, and carried out some repairs to both Monnow and Umea at Uxbridge at the time of the recent docking.

 

Where is "Monnow" advertised? I cannot find a advert.

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