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pete harrison

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  1. Extant full length butty's and horse boats

    Yes, keep them coming - and I should have remembered all of the above. Is GERTRUDE still about ?
  2. Water Cans and Handbowls

    And a few days ago I won the matching handbowl from the same seller as the last water can bought back in October, and again unused apart from hanging in a kitchen for 30 years (and falling off on at least one occasion as it has a slightly bent rim). Just like the matched Water Can this handbowl is good to use rather than preserve: :
  3. Extant full length butty's and horse boats

    SISKIN is interesting and very much a one off, but had it been built by somebody else it would not be - well not to me anyway
  4. Extant full length butty's and horse boats

    And before ELIZABETH it carried only a maintenance boat number - either 191 or 198. I used the name TRIAGULUM in the list as I just copied and updated a list I already had
  5. Extant full length butty's and horse boats

    You can't catch me out that easily ! When I was boating there were very few matched pairings, probably excluding the camping boats at Braunston. As far as large Northwich / small Woolwich were concerned back then TADWORTH / ARGO, WHITBY / PICTOR, YEOFORD / ARGON were all paired - and that was just in central Birmingham. As I am getting older I am finding it harder to get on and off large butty's, and as boats spend most of their time tied up I would rather have the feeling of extra space that comes with a small Woolwich butty when compared to a small Northwich of F.M.C. Ltd.. The ideal back cabin space would be a 'blue top', but as I have already said there are only two unconverted 'blue top' butty's left - and I find a large motor and 'blue top' butty quite pleasing on the eye edit = I did once own the matched large Woolwich pair BADSEY and BARNES - but sold them 27 years ago.
  6. Extant full length butty's and horse boats

    As already stated by Mr Fincher and Mr Elsdon these boats generally pre-date F.M.C. Ltd. motors and I am certain most were horse boats, but without good traffic records it is difficult say which worked as horse drawn singles and which worked in horse drawn pairs. Richard Thomas has done a considerable amount of work on F.M.C. Ltd. steamers (as well as all of the others) and has collated numerous inspections that formed a part of the Canal Boat Act. These were snapshots of pairings at the time of inspection and usually indicate the pairings
  7. Extant full length butty's and horse boats

    PHOEBE worked on the Caldon Canal with Tony Angel's (Angell's ?) HYPERION and later Martin Fuller's ANNE. I also recall seeing it paired with Roger Fuller's ELSTREE when doing retail coal in the early 1980's.
  8. Extant full length butty's and horse boats

    I was once told that ETHEL was the LMS Station Boat kept in the Audlem flight. These boats are an absolute nightmare to sort out (I have tried and failed), although they do make very attractive butty's
  9. Extant full length butty's and horse boats

    I have heard this boat referred to as KESWICK but it just can not be as KESWICK is one of several boats recorded as scuttled in Hawtrey's Pit, Harefield
  10. Extant full length butty's and horse boats

    My personal preference would be a small Woolwich butty as I feel their proportions are pleasing on the eye, and the cabin is a little wider than a Northwich. Like I said I am only toying with the idea at the moment, and it will not be for a year or two as I have to complete my current project first edit = or an unconverted 'blue top' would be nice, but there are only two left !
  11. Extant full length butty's and horse boats

    Well I had to do something to bring the conversation about flow dynamics to an end in the boats for sale on the internet thread
  12. Extant full length butty's and horse boats

    Those numbers on the cabin are miss-leading Yep, both still full length butty's. I even have a photograph upstairs of me steering ASH in the old Birmingham and Midland days
  13. Extant full length butty's and horse boats

    To be honest TAPLOW was one of those that I was uncertain as to whether it still exists, along with a couple of the other wooden boats on my list. This list was just for a bit of fun (for me anyway) and there is no doubt some have a dubious existence being more reproductions than original and others would cost eye watering amounts to remove the propulsion modifications. What disappoints me is the number of these boats that have accommodation in the hold, many of which are of such quality that they are unlikely to be de-converted in the future. I am toying with the thought of acquiring an unconverted butty and there is already not that much choice, especially as my gammy knee would be more suited to a small boat. I would describe KENNETH and those like it as built to 'horse boat style', although I would prefer not to describe them at all
  14. Extant full length butty's and horse boats

    KENNETH is a fairly recent build by Dave Thomas at Braunston edit = built around 2007
  15. Extant full length butty's and horse boats

    The stern post is the large piece of wood that forms the rearmost upright structural part of the hull. The side planks are attached to this and it runs down to the keelson *. The stern post iron is the metalwork that protects the stern post (a bit like a vertical rubbing guard), and it is usually shaped to form the mounting points for the rudder and 'T' stud edit = * the keelson or kelson is the backbone of the boat and runs from the stem post to the stern post and is attached to the boats bottoms.
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