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Jerra

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  1. Brexit 2017

    Non of the above is now to illegal immigrants and yet they still seem to find the country attractive hence the problems lorries have with stowaways. Which is less dangerous freely move to Eire walk over the border and catch a ferry to the mainland or trying to get into a moving lorry or tying yourself underneath. I know this route is already available but I think will become more and more attractive after the publicity the border is receiving and a perceived tightening of controls at ports.
  2. Brexit 2017

    You obviously didn't notice the phrase "We all know isn't going to happen". Please make sure you have read and understood what I am trying to say before commenting.
  3. Brexit 2017

    I suspect it was the ease of walking from one country to another which lead to the whole idea of freedom of movement in the first place i.e. they realised they couldn't prevent it. I have stepped over a single strand of barbed wire fastened to the ground on a ridge to get from Austria to Italy (long before the EU) and skied from Switzerland to France many times a day. As I said earlier with out a "Berlin Type wall" a bit like Trump control of immigrants to the UK will be impossible. We all know that isn't going to happen so one of the main tenets of the Brexiteers will be down the pan.
  4. Brexit 2017

    I thought you knew better than to put words in to peoples mouths. I have never said I wanted it, I wanted the EU and as a result the currewnt situation with borders. However one of the primary squeals of the Brexiteers is "we must have control over immigration" which they clearly can't have without a hard border somewhere between mainland Britain and Ireland which wherever it is will be unacceptable to somebody. So there can be/will be no control over immigration just perhaps a rise in "illegal" immigration as opposed to the current legal movement of people.
  5. Brexit 2017

    Hence the fact it will need to emulate the Berlin wall.
  6. Brexit 2017

    Being of Irish Ulster extraction there is little you can tell me about the border. If the Brexiteers are as desperate to "take control" of immigration as they seem/claim a "Berlin Wall" type Border is the only thing which will work otherwise their cries of "we must have control" ring more than a little hollow.
  7. Brexit 2017

    This is what I have said all along, unless there is a hard border between Eire and NI the idea of "taking back control" is totally out of the window. I also feel it could well open another route which illegal immigrants/economic migrants might try as they seem to find moving from one country to the next in the EU easy, then a gentle stroll over the border. What do you need if you can't drive? Last time I visited Ulster admittedly about 8 or 10 years ago I needed nothing and I was driving.
  8. Brexit 2017

    I am in no way shape or form DUP but I wouldn't be happy with that unless you put a hard border between the other parts of Great Britain. Why should I have to go through border procedures to get to NI when I don't to Wales or Scotland?
  9. Brexit 2017

    Currently the EU is 28 countries. As a super state it would be one. The US started out making what the pioneers thought would end up as countries hence the fact they are called states. I am fairly certain the French speaking part of Canada was a separate country and my Canadian mate informs me each province operates basically as a separate country and yet they seem to be doing OK. If we were to become a single state the language problem would be no worse than say India. I once watched a lady in school to test hearing trying to communicate with a young lad who was a recent immigrant. She finally managed and afterwards I asked what what was going on. Her reply "I was on to the 7th of my Indian dialects before I found one he understood, not his own but he could understand me". India copes with a diversity of language far wider than the EU has. I didn't ask what you wanted I asked what was wrong with a superstate and you appear to have no answer. Fair enough.
  10. Brexit 2017

    What exactly would be the problem with a super state? It hasn't done the USA or Canada any harm.
  11. Brexit 2017

    I don't think I can remember a majority government during my lifetime I think they have all had more votes against than for so you may be right. It is still a slim majority and far less a majority than the government dictate to unions and many democratic organisations require. Brexiteers still hype as a majority sounding as if it were huge. Not being a mathematician I can't say for sure but I suspect it isn't a statistically significant result. By that I mean the difference between the 2 is small enough to have not had a identifiable cause a bit like spinning a coin.
  12. Brexit 2017

    If as so many Brexiteers wish the EU collapses we are probably going to see the Russians dragging them back. Strange how those who want Brexit always fail to point out it is a slim majority and always try to "big up" the result by referring to the majority trying to imply it was a very significant one. It wasn't large enough to be carried in many organisations and is certainly nowhere near what the Tories consider is a majority when it comes to unions holding a democratic vote.
  13. How Many Straws To Break The Camel’s Back ?

    To me that doesn't read as if he is saying anybody is dense, merely asking if it is possible some people are so dense.
  14. Brexit 2017

    You haven't quite followed what I was meaning. You seemed to go along with the idea of ditching Westminster, which means you must be in favour of the EU as you claim the UK government doesn't have any power under the EU.
  15. Brexit 2017

    Personally I don't see how the lie on the bus can't have had an effect. It only required somewhere in the region of 3.5 - 4 % of the 17,000,000 to have voted for the lie to swing the result if they had voted remain instead. There must be at least 4% of gullible people in any sample of the population.
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