tigster

Omg can you actually hear yourselves!!! What a load of sour grapes, this is why I don't post on this forum! It's as bad as NBW. Do any of you actually do anything about the canals or do you just moan. Didn't think so!

Well I thought it was hysterical, A bit of light hearted entertainment, and I can't wait for the stupid questions I am going to be asked by my friends and family, and non boaters on the towpath! if it continues on the same vain I'm going to be having a right laugh perpetuating the myths created by this program! I might start some new ones!!!!

oops that was meant to be on previous post, doh!

Ooooooo your cutting off circulation to vital organs with your twisted knickers, careful they might drop off!!

I live on, cruise the canals covering 5 counties 365 days. I work, I don't own a car so use puplic transport, as I stated before I never used to have a problem with overstayers, as far as I was concerned it was between them and BW. I follow the cc'er guidelines and have no issue with them, I move every two weeks, not because I have too, or because I can't afford a mooring, I move because I want too, I love being a traveller. I now find myself having to get involved in mooring issues and having to complain that what is proposed in restricting my ability to cruise. I am finding that there are going to be several different rules around the system, it's confusing and on top of that if I get it wrong I can be fined. All for the sake of a minority of boaters who refuse to follow the guidelines and move In all the 8 years of being a ccer this is the most contact I have had with BW, they are becoming hostile towards boaters and see living on as undesirable All for the sake of a minority of boaters who refuse to follow the guidelines and move. Local authorities are hostile towards boaters by refusing to grant planning permission for Marina, local communities are become hostile and don't want boats in there areas All for the sake of a minority of boaters who refuse to follow the guidelines and move. Who's being selfish?

Now who's getting there knickers in a twist.

Great the London boaters have set up an action group! http://www.londonboaters.org/discussions At last now maybe they can sort this mess out without having stupid rules imposed on the rest of us!

Well I am glad that it dosent affect you, it affects me when I will have to follow the mickey mouse rules that overstayers are forcing BW to come up with. Because unlike other people I am socially responsible and not selfish in my attitude to the canals.

My knickers and there state of twistedness is none of your concern. :-) BW's mistake is and was not enforcing their guidelines. They have dug themselfs a whole out of which is coming a whole load of stupid rules and again this affects all boaters including you! All because of few inconsiderate boaters, who are now crying foul and asking the rest of us to come to their defence.

I didn't have a problem with overstayers as far as I was concerned it's between them and BW, but now there choices are affecting my lifestyle! As I have said before the only reason we are having this discussion about "waterway legislation" is because of irresponsible boating. If people didn't overstay and followed the guideline we wouldn't have a problem!

You have made my point when I referred to being harassed the problem with boats overstaying is just this. What you are forgetting is that when you overstay in an area you are using the local resources ie council and not paying for it. I would have every sympathy overstayers if they payed the local council tax. When you genuinely cc you are spreading your impact over several councils thus not creating an issue. Because of the perceived getting away with not paying your way, local residents become annoyed. And then the councils become hostile to setting up residential moorings and the cycle starts. Frankly I have had enough of being treated like I am a scrounger because of irresponsible boating, Yes if you overstay! No if you don't! Yes um! I would have thought you would appreciate the efforts of BW to try to sort the problem of overstayers. Maybe you should direct your comments to the boat overstaying, getting free moorings and causing BW to introduce draconian rules which doesn't affect their cruising because that don't move. And as for arguing that the rules are unlawful, the overstayer is now laughing because he/they will be thinking I can still get away with it. There is something called social responsibility and overstayers are flouting there responsibility to the canal community.

No I think you'll find they are trying to clear the canals for the olympics. They don't have a problem with cc'ers or livaboards who follow the guidelines, they have a problem with bridge hoppers who don't move very far or continious moorers. This is why we live in a nanny state, the guidelines are what BW thinks is a fair way to behave on the canals. what is happening down there is unfair to the majority of boaters on the system and now because you won't follow the guidelines you are forcing BW to introduce draconian rules which is to the detriment of all canal users. It takes away my freedom and frankly arguing of the finer points of what is law or not is shameful.

If you think the kennet and Avon is up north! To me it's down south!