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Is it such an inconvenience though? Anybody who moors on a lock landing has volunteered their boat as a temporary pontoon as far as I'm concerned.

Thats just a web of flies

Just been driving along a motorway close to one of those places where they have big propellors in the fields, and one of them had a door in the base open, and I swear I could see a Morso in the bottom of it (a black one).

Taking more than his fair Cher of the resources eh!

I thought it relevant to the references to cast steel, obviously I was wrong.

I thought it worth at least a greenie? .....glad someone got it!

The sodium glas battery is only at the 'proof of concept' stage at the moment. It may never get out of the lab. Noises being made that are sorting the cathode problem. Not sure it will be goodenough?

....................................Let me stop you right there.This is a family forum

But we'd look daft if it turned out it was a single hander who did themselves a serious injury while working the lock. That's why it pays to establish the circumstances before laying into someone. JP

Perhaps Carlt studied physics with Bluestringpudding on the planet Clanger. Clearly a case for an OFSTED inspection and special measures. There can be no argument that both the colour and finish of a surface make a huge difference to its ability to radiate heat. Wood stoves do rely largely on convection, but it is the radiated heat element that warms your knees from the other side of the room, it is the radiated heat that warms the fabric of the cabin, especially at low levels where the warm convected air struggles to reach and it is the radiated heat that makes the cabin feel cosy. I have a Wallas convector heater that heats up quickly, is clean, very efficient and cheap to run, and yet I choose to lug coal a 1/4 of a mile to my boat, spend a great deal of time riddling, disposing of ash, and dusting the shelves, simply because my Squirrel stove produces a much 'nicer' heat, and that difference is down to heat radiation. However, if you don't trust science and prefer style over performance, then you enjoy your brightly coloured stove! Perhaps Carlt studied physics with Bluestringpudding on the planet Clanger. Clearly a case for an OFSTED inspection and special measures. There can be no argument that both the colour and finish of a surface make a huge difference to its ability to radiate heat. Wood stoves do rely largely on convection, but it is the radiated heat element that warms your knees from the other side of the room, it is the radiated heat that warms the fabric of the cabin, especially at low levels where the warm convected air struggles to reach and it is the radiated heat that makes the cabin feel cosy. I have a Wallas convector heater that heats up quickly, is clean, very efficient and cheap to run, and yet I choose to lug coal a 1/4 of a mile to my boat, spend a great deal of time riddling, disposing of ash, and dusting the shelves, simply because my Squirrel stove produces a much 'nicer' heat, and that difference is down to heat radiation. However, if you don't trust science and prefer style over performance, then you enjoy your brightly coloured stove!

To the OP. It's very pleasing that you are receptive to advice. so many ask for advice and then object when it is not what they wanted to hear! So, please, keep the questions coming, there is hundreds of years' worth of experience on this forum.

Well it's now mine. I seriously doubt it it is worth a serious amount of money but I don't care. I wanted it and got it and I love it. It's an original Chesterfield Canal windlass. I am told it's wrought iron I also bought a haggis! I am trying to work out how to share a picture of it when I am only on my phone

Thats where she's going wrong. No use burning bags, unless of course they are knitted.

Don’t spoil my argument with facts please

I have found over years of use that just whacking more fuel on fire and/or opening the air thingy at the bottom everywhere gets mooch otter, just sayin like.

Pretty insightful, luckily I already have a beard...

Realistically you are almost certainly correct it was inconsiderate mooring but if we make that assumption all the time we will be wrong at some point. Also I don't think it's reasonable to assume someone with an arm or leg injury would be inclined or even able to write a note. At the end of the day it's an inconvenience involving canal boating that makes your task a little harder. If you had been out driving rather than boating you would almost certainly have encountered someone being equally inconsiderate but with potentially far greater consequences for you. I'll bet you wouldn't have started a thread online about that. Sometimes it pays to put it in perspective, get over the initial annoyance and move on. I don't think naming and shaming is the way to tackle it. JP

I thought it almost, but not quite goodenough for a greenie

Surly you would leave a note if it was an emergency, concidering it was tied up and locked? Lets pray it wasnt there today with the 2 wide beams i passed on that section today

Oh go on then.

Is that allowed, making the wife sleep under the mattress?

Ok, thanks for that. I'll give that a go and see what happens.

Once you'd removed the pea?

So blocking a lock mooring when there is nowhere elts to tie up and from the previous lock cant see the other lock leaving a boat blocking a lock landing (and had i been a wide beam) blocking the lock too this is ok with you? That was the point of my posting this. A there are signs be it questionable as i was expecting it to say winter moorings B there was plenty of mooring below and above the next lock. C blocking the lock landing and lock. If it was an emergency why would you take 3 lines off. And the opposite side dispite the signs the boat would be in no ones way. For me a single boater this time it couldnt have been more in the way. I also add not that i would but i would expect to be moaned about if i moored like this.

You could get the Rolling Stones to do it

A note on that hydrometer... They are lovely to use but not that accurate or repeatable. I did a back to back with two of these units and an optical device. I think I remember that mine read about 1.285 when the other, and the optical, said about 1.275. There was also a repeatability issue but this can be reduced with careful use. The unit works best if kept upright, and the compensating disc tends to have a fair bit of stiction. They are quick and easy use so its worth taking two or three readings from each cell at first till you have got the technique for repeatable results. ...............Dave

Here he is. That's Im. That's the guy who started it.Get Him!

In our case Ecofan was sat on a centrally sited Villager Puffin angled backwards into a short corridor leading to the rear bedroom. The difference was quite noticeable during very cold weather, don't know the actual temp difference but it changed an uninviting cold bedroom into a welcoming one. I don't know if anyone has tried one with the same layout as us but I think it's intrinsic to the debate/argument. Trying to prove one way or the other whether Ecofans work is pointless, no conclusion can ever be reached IMO because it seems to me all results are dependant on individual boats and conditions. Feel free to ridicule me!

Your argument might convince me if the heatmaps had shown where the temperature sensors were positioned.

A Thermos flask is a wonderful thing to have. It can keep things cold as well as hot. Both lovely hot soup and a choc-ice for afters for example.

But I presume you agree with the limited time on visitor moorings as they do make sense in busy areas. So how would you suggest CRT deal with the over stayers for the boaters that are not playing fair?

"Oh yes they would"..... Seriously, if you read the report closely, you will see they take 56 seperate temperatures at various places round the room. To give the reader an indication of these temperatures, you create a heat map (as per the diagrams) from the 56 readings. This is typical of heat map simulation. You have 56 actual temperature points - you can then using the simulation software predict the temps at any point in between if you know some other data - such as air flow. This 'simulation' has been used for years in really critical industries - we used it in work to check the design of steam cracker furnaces prior to building a $1Bn industrial plant. Based on a number of measured temperatures you can accurately predict the unmeasured temperatures in between. It is interesting there has been little discussion on the paper - and most respondants have gone over to the other thread! I am still thinking it might be a spoof. In my career I both wrote and peer reviewed many papers and I would not be happy to put my name to this one. If you write a patent, you HAVE TO put in sufficient data to make it so that anyone 'skilled in the field' can reproduce your experiments and final data. Papers do not have that restriction but it is good practice to help the reader understand what you have done. For me in this paper, there is a big piece missing and that is a flavor of the recorded data - and not just the final calculated data. Therefore if I was writing it, I would have included a number of pairs of graphs (with and without fan) of the key temperature sensor readings with time, and at least included the runs where the extremes of fuel differential useage were seen. I then would have produced the heat diagrams for these runs for comparison. Without this data it is impossible to determine if the writers were missing so key variables that could wreck the final results. In the writers defence, they were not trying to demonstrate 'thermal comfort' (which is probably our only interest) so maybe that data would not be considered important, but in that case where is the data on fuel useage, ie which runs (and how often) did they need to refuel etc? So much information has been omitted to make it suspicious. On balance I would say it is a very poor paper (but I have very high standards). Is it a spoof? I dont know......but my personal experience does seem to accept the 2 heat maps published match up to with how our fan performs.

Top marks for the 24v system....

Perhaps you mean "in short pounds in lock flights", then? In which case you need to define "short" surely? All the major flights south of Braunston, (Braunston, Buckby, Stoke, Marsworth) have traditionally allowed mooring somewhere within them, (in some cases designated visitor moorings). As it stands I don't think your definition is tight enough. If this was a permitted exception for VaW, and normally CRT say daytime mooring in that pound is allowed, would it not be better if the temporary signs said, "Please no mooring in this pound during the Village at War event" and gave dates?

As an aside, the sign is a very odd one. Despite the CRT logo, it says "CRT have requested". I suspect it has been made and put there by a local, not offiially by CRT, otherwise why not just "no mooring in this pound". "In line with usual boating etiquette?" What's all that about then? I call "bluff" on this sign.

Write a complaint to all the stove manufacturers that use any other colour, then Oh look - I have shiny white tiles behind my stove all the way up to the ceiling. The cumulative effect of those and my stove in whatever colour the stove is painted is probably better than the equivalent matt black painted stove without the selective surface behind.

and it is even more basic skoolboy fizzicks that room heaters work through convection more than radiation. "Radiators" is a misnomer. A black heater may well be radiating heat more effectively but emissivity of thermal radiation is not the main way to heat a room. Halogen and fan heaters are true "radiators" which is why they only warm you up if you are sat directly in front of them and an Ecofan wouldn't turn if sat on top of them. Painting your stove white or silver will not reduce it's ability to heat a room by convection by any (barely) measurable degree except by adding a very thin insulating layer. Putting a silver or white board behind it though will heat the room immediately in front of it more effectively (which is why halogen heaters have a reflector behind the heat source). Worrying about radiated heat is only really an issue if you want to keep heat out which is why those screens for keeping cars cool are silver on the outside.

Didn't buy any of mine. It's who you know! That snakey shanked one looks like it should work a winch of sorts - not something you could tuck under your jacket or belt comfortably. But if it's 'Chesterfield', and you love it - that's what counts.

It's a bit of a pointless question really. A bit like asking what's the point of having a cat. If you like having a fan on your stove then that IS the effect. If you like having a cat (or dog) around, what is the point of that? Answer, the same. A stove fan is rather like having a pet around in your bote.

Maybe that's the answer, make them fish on the side where the fish are. They wouldn't be on a mooring and they wouldn't need to spend so much money on silly long poles.

Please take care! Messing about with the aerodynamic efficiency of these devices can have disastrous results. The are set in the factory to produce little or no draught whatsoever but bend the blades and they can turn into a hurricane producing monster.

The sort left on the floor at the end of a boot sale, rusty, knackered and not even worth the scrap value

If you combine this with dressing like Kirk Douglas' Spartacus you will be feared by all and treated with great respect and deference.

I believe that these would be off a Lister "Start-o-matic generator set, often found in isolated houses, farms etc. They are definitely moving iron meters, as noted above, note the non-linear scale, and incidentally not very accurate! Moving iron meters read directly on AC without any problem, hence my thought that it is a generating set as 15A would be night for a 3kVA generator. You could use one to monitor load current on the 240v side of an inverter, the 15A scale would be just right for that! Never seen one with the name cast in before, but my chimney sweep's Mum is moving and has a disused Start-o-matic in her shed.........

You miss a very important point though. CRT already have powers in law that allow them to enforce the 14 day limit - the moving on after 14 days is actually enshrined in the act. In my view it would be far better if they used powers they already had more regularly and more consistently, and sought less to do things for which they do not have legal backing, (such as the £25 per day overstay charges). It's not about 'experts' in boating law, as you cynically put it. It is about what the law actually says, and you wishing the law gave CRT powers beyond those they actually have isn't really "observing the best principles of boating" is it? It is actually supporting a charitable trust exceeding its legal powers. As this thread is about winter stay times, and it has been accepted by most I think that most shorter stay moorings revert to 14 days in winter, what is the perceived problem here? CRT can still choose to enforce the 14 days, (at any time of year), if they want to. The £25 is completely unrelated to that because at 14 days you hit the number enshrined in law, and paying a "facilities charge" to CRT doesn't suddenly make it legal. It would mean you are paying the trust for the privilege of breaking the law.

I never did understand why locomotives, cars and planes (along with most other things) were always painted various shades of grey until the middle of the 20th century. ......................... coat

Added a word to your post there Dave, for the benefit of the OP! Real rivets are fine and attract no ridicule.