ditchcrawler Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 I saw this advertised in the front cover of Waterways World and I am wondering if the boat actually exists or is it just a bit of art work. I can see the cats in Australia working. http://mothershipmarine.com/narrowboat/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cereal tiller Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 I saw this advertised in the front cover of Waterways World and I am wondering if the boat actually exists or is it just a bit of art work. I can see the cats in Australia working. http://mothershipmarine.com/narrowboat/ Designed for Mothers?2 KW is a decent solar array but not for serious propulsion. Adequate for NBTA members though CT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven wilkinson Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 I am sure there is a 100% electric boat somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cereal tiller Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 I am sure there is a 100% electric boat somewhere There is a 45 foot one on the Thames it moves infrequently CT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 (edited) Friend of mine had one, that did move frequently. 60 footer IIRC a minimum of 1.8kW of solar is required to be defined as a solar powered boat. Edited November 5, 2016 by Geo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Ambrose Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 I am sure there is a 100% electric boat somewhere Depends on what you mean by 100% electric. On the Broads there is a 100% solar powered trip boat Ra by name , works on Barton Broad, there is another trip boat that works Ranworth Broad, that one relys on a battery bank recharged at the end of the day Lady of Ranworth by name. there is a 60' x 15' trading wherry that is converted to holiday hire (comes with a skipper) it sails but when wind and tide are wrong it uses battery bank topped up by a on-demand diesel genny. There are many electric day boats too, powered by battery banks and each year there is a electric boat show, so the short answer is yes there are electric boats. Phil 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted November 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 My question was really do you think the Narrowboat in the advertisement exists or is it a graphic. The BA boat is a very light cat with the top covered with solar pannles called Ra http://www.visitnorfolk.co.uk/Norwich-Ra-Boat-Trip/details/?dms=3&feature=1034&venue=0223003 and most electric day boats are charged overnight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Ambrose Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 My question was really do you think the Narrowboat in the advertisement exists or is it a graphic. The BA boat is a very light cat with the top covered with solar pannles called Ra http://www.visitnorfolk.co.uk/Norwich-Ra-Boat-Trip/details/?dms=3&feature=1034&venue=0223003 and most electric day boats are charged overnight Given the above posts I see no reason to suppose that the boat doesn't exist, it would take a brave person to advertise without at least having produced a prototype (that works)I now recall reading of a 100% electric powered boat that someone reviewed for some magazine, maybe Canal World? Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mross Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 In the two photos I see no ropes or fenders or poles, so I'd say it's not real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scholar Gypsy Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 There is also one on the Cam. I've seen a video. Can't find it on youtube, but I did find this short film from 1931 about electric boats ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top cat Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 Having looked at the site I don't think it exists and this is an attempt to get some rich sucker to fund the prototype. I can see lots of practical issues arising with the gull wing doors and really don't think 2KW is enough, and given that some of the panels will be facing down sun you ain't going to get anything near that. Top Cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan de Enfield Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 (edited) I am sure there is a 100% electric boat somewhere Are you thinking of the "NB Ampere" We have passed it a few times on the T&M ETA : WHARF HOUSE NARROWBOATS, AMPERE, 57.5FT TRAD, Circa £200,000 The name, Ampere, gives away the key feature of this boat – it’s electrically powered. The propeller is driven by an electric motor by TEMA, a Croatian company, while the electric power comes from a big battery bank. Charging is via an 8kVA Fischer Panda generator located under the tug deck. So you can cruise on electric power alone, or have the generator running. Whichever way you do it, your cruising will be virtually silent. As an alternative charge, the roof carries four 100W solar panels. As a by-product, the generator heats a calorifier, which runs underfloor heating throughout the boat. Edited November 6, 2016 by Alan de Enfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mross Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 It's an Aussie outfit! What would they know about UK canals! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 It's an Aussie outfit! What would they know about UK canals! Quite. Cruising with side fenders down. Obviously they know NOTHING about proper boating! My assessment is the picture is a photo with the real NB chopped out, and a photoshopped NB inserted back into the space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mross Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 There are electric hire boats on Mon and Brec. But presumably the hire company has built some charging stations along the cut. Seems pointless to have hybrid if you need to run a diesel to charge the batteries; cruise in silence and then make noise moored up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalslandia Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 Quite. Cruising with side fenders down. Obviously they know NOTHING about proper boating! My assessment is the picture is a photo with the real NB chopped out, and a photoshopped NB inserted back into the space. it is a good one, but an animation. or 3D render. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess-- Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 Quite. Cruising with side fenders down. Obviously they know NOTHING about proper boating! My assessment is the picture is a photo with the real NB chopped out, and a photoshopped NB inserted back into the space. I would say that the hull in the picture is real but anything above the gunwales is fake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BilgePump Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 They definitely made the houseboat as the 2014 demo boat is up for nearly AU$600k http://www.boatsales.com.au/boats-for-sale/dealer/demo/OAG-AD-2148190/2014-HOUSEBOAT-MOTHERSHIP No detailed pics of the NB though, just that one and design software created ones so doesn't appear to have actually made it onto the water yet. Gull wing sides seem an even worse idea than sliding roof for leak potential and any cyclist passing a moored boat would come to a painful halt. I do think that there is a future for electric, solar, hybrid etc, but designs will probably be best from those builders already catering to specific types of craft and location. Volume builders could follow carmakers and offer an electric propulsion option in the future. And of course there will always be the enthusiasts who come up with their own diy versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spadefoot Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 There is a 45 foot one on the Thames it moves infrequently CT Moving infrequently is quite common for boats on the Thames, and indeed for many thousands of boats on CRT waters too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterboat Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 I think we had better get used to them, car wise all makers are planning electric vehicles, and a couple of makers will be dropping diesels from the range shortly [emissions], so I think the tide is changing for diesels on land so why not water? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted November 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 There was one on the Gt Ouse as I went through Denver with him some time back, but even he couldn't manage 100% This is the one that saw in the mag http://solarpowerednarrowboat.blogspot.co.uk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pquinn Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 Here is a big one in Dublin, http://www.canalboatrestaurant.ie/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerra Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 My question was really do you think the Narrowboat in the advertisement exists or is it a graphic. Unless my eyes are deceiving me there is nowhere to fasten stern lines. Also there doesn't appear to be any roof ventilators and no index number. The later isn't unusual I know, however I lean towards a picture that has been subject to a lot of photoshopping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted November 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 Here is a big one in Dublin, http://www.canalboatrestaurant.ie/ Is that battery via shore supply charging or diesel electric as I cant see the solar panels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Payne Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 This bit made me chuckle, What a load of tosh! A boat designed for mothers to be used all year round. A boat that is comfortable, very stable and has enough toys on it to keep the children and their guests occupied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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