Chertsey Posted August 19, 2007 Report Posted August 19, 2007 Been noticing a lot of them lately. Keep meeting Kew coming down from Atherstone, and have seen Dee. Also spotted a converted one at Bill Fen and another (Lee) on the Cam this morning. What I was wondering was if there are any fully restored ones. I know about Anne, which is (or at least was last year) trading, but are there any restored to 'as new' show condition? If not, is it because of some technical difficulty or just because no one can be bothered?
Hairy-Neil Posted August 19, 2007 Report Posted August 19, 2007 (edited) What are Blue Tops ? Nicknamed Bluetops because of their glassfibre hatch lids rather than traditional side and top cloths, these were the River Class boats built for British Waterways c.1957/1959. They were amongst the last boats commissioned for commercial carrying. The majority were butties as there was a shortage at the time. There were also a couple of experimental motor boats built to the same hull design, but with an unorthadox propulsion system, much like a huge outboard motor. (some spare Josher motors had also been converted to butties and Walkers of Rickmansworth had built a couple of wooden butties too to the Town Class GUCCC design, Aberystwyth and Bangor) For more details see here:- A.M.Models Been noticing a lot of them lately. Keep meeting Kew coming down from Atherstone, and have seen Dee. Also spotted a converted one at Bill Fen and another (Lee) on the Cam this morning. What I was wondering was if there are any fully restored ones. I know about Anne, which is (or at least was last year) trading, but are there any restored to 'as new' show condition? If not, is it because of some technical difficulty or just because no one can be bothered? There's one thats a hulk used for maintenance work, currently (well, this time last week) tied up at the junction of the Wednesbury Old Canal (often wrongly called the Ridgeacre Branch) Edited August 19, 2007 by Hairy-Neil
John Orentas Posted August 19, 2007 Report Posted August 19, 2007 I used to be friendly with a chap who lived on a Blue top butty, AXE he would scrounge a tow now and then to get a change of scenery. The boat was in very good nick and was totally original as far as I could see. That was probably getting on for 20 years ago. Anyone know anything about it.
Chertsey Posted August 19, 2007 Author Report Posted August 19, 2007 (edited) Here are some I've seen recently - one of them (At Rothens yard on the Coventry) does look like it's in the process of being restored. link to pics (edited because I remembered the name of the place) Edited August 19, 2007 by WarriorWoman
MartinClark Posted August 19, 2007 Report Posted August 19, 2007 There's one thats a hulk used for maintenance work, currently (well, this time last week) tied up at the junction of the Wednesbury Old Canal (often wrongly called the Ridgeacre Branch) The Ridgacre Branch is often wrongly called the Ridgeacre Branch as well!
Chertsey Posted August 19, 2007 Author Report Posted August 19, 2007 The Ridgacre Branch is often wrongly called the Ridgeacre Branch as well! Edgeware syndrome
Hairy-Neil Posted August 19, 2007 Report Posted August 19, 2007 (edited) The Ridgacre Branch is often wrongly called the Ridgeacre Branch as well! Blame Nicholsons..... Oddly too, the BCN Society also refer to it as Ridgeacre on their website..... In fact Google just found 474 references to Ridgacre and 210 references to Ridgeacre Branch so I'd say that was pretty well common usage....... AXE......Anyone know anything about it. According to A.M.Models website.....AXE; Rebuilt as a motor, Stone, 1995. Lister HA3, and 22ft cabin. Trip boat, Aynho, Oxford. Stern end of AXE; Forms a floral display at Star Lock in Stone. Edited August 19, 2007 by Hairy-Neil
John Orentas Posted August 19, 2007 Report Posted August 19, 2007 According to A.M.Models website.....AXE; Rebuilt as a motor, Stone, 1995. Lister HA3, and 22ft cabin. Trip boat, Aynho, Oxford. Stern end of AXE; Forms a floral display at Star Lock in Stone. Thanks for that Neil, had I known all that last year I could have paid my respects to both halves in my single trip.
AMModels Posted August 19, 2007 Report Posted August 19, 2007 This is the stern of AXE which can be seen in Stone, Im not sure if it ever bore the name REBEKAH on the water. You can see from this pic and also those of the converted motor DORY (she was converted to a butty) that the sterns were pretty shapeless. DORY has in later years been converted back to a motor and has carried the name ELAINE carrying stone for the Palace of Westminster refurbishment and also Chris Coburns driveway cobbles before reverting to her original name.
Stephen Sugg Posted August 20, 2007 Report Posted August 20, 2007 This is the stern of AXE which can be seen in Stone, Im not sure if it ever bore the name REBEKAH on the water. You can see from this pic and also those of the converted motor DORY (she was converted to a butty) that the sterns were pretty shapeless. DORY has in later years been converted back to a motor and has carried the name ELAINE carrying stone for the Palace of Westminster refurbishment and also Chris Coburns driveway cobbles before reverting to her original name. The last time I was in Braunston there were some old actual blue tops (the plastic covers) behind the pump house, waiting for a home. This was earlier this year
magnetman Posted August 20, 2007 Report Posted August 20, 2007 I suspect the said blue tops at UCC may be waiting for a big wallet to stumble past in a 'workboat restoration' stupor.
Hairy-Neil Posted August 20, 2007 Report Posted August 20, 2007 (edited) .....and has carried the name ELAINE carrying stone for the Palace of Westminster refurbishment....I remember the trip carrying stone for the restoration of Windsor Castle after the fire, I also remember her carrying the Graham Palmer memorial stone to the Montgomery Canal lock of the same name. Edited August 20, 2007 by Hairy-Neil
AMModels Posted August 21, 2007 Report Posted August 21, 2007 My apologies I thought it was for the Westminster work, I remember her travelling on the K&A and also the fact she had her draught reduced to 2'6"
carlt Posted August 21, 2007 Report Posted August 21, 2007 According to A.M.Models website.....AXE; Rebuilt as a motor, Stone, 1995. Lister HA3, and 22ft cabin. Trip boat, Aynho, Oxford. In 1999 she was a liveaboard at cropredy. I seem to recall her being up for sale recently.
John Orentas Posted August 21, 2007 Report Posted August 21, 2007 So Axe has had a busy life since I first knew it, even though decapitated and otherwise messed about with but that is the lot of old working boats. I feel better now.
AMModels Posted August 21, 2007 Report Posted August 21, 2007 In 1999 she was a liveaboard at cropredy. I seem to recall her being up for sale recently. Thanks Carl I shall update the website with that.
rainbowdragonfly Posted September 9, 2007 Report Posted September 9, 2007 Indeed this is the stern of former AXE, based in Stone. Axe was left on a tip on Whitebridge Ind. Estate and the owner was goign to chop her up, my Dad bought the stern off him for about £25 pounds and then gave AXE the name REBEKAH, after myself. The council then asked if they could use her to represent Stone, which is how she got to where she is now.
AMModels Posted September 9, 2007 Report Posted September 9, 2007 Hi Rebekah thanks for that history snippet I spoke with your father quite a few times when we collaborated on the lists that are now hosted on my website, I think I may have spoken to either you or your sister in the past as well. Hope you are well.
Chertsey Posted September 10, 2007 Author Report Posted September 10, 2007 This is getting interesting, as I was subsequently told by the marina owners that the one at Bill Fen (third one down here) is Axe. I will try to post some more pics somewhere later. This one now has a very nicely built trad stern on it. Another distinguishing feature is sections cut out of the hull sides to give lower opening side hatches. It is also irridescent mauve with upvc window units though that might be an even later addition! Any ideas about the one at Rothens (fourth one down)? And do River and Admiralty class have different hull shapes?
Hairy-Neil Posted September 10, 2007 Report Posted September 10, 2007 And do River and Admiralty class have different hull shapes? Considerably so..... But then, even members of the Admiralty Class have different hull shapes, there being two different builders.....
carlt Posted September 10, 2007 Report Posted September 10, 2007 This is getting interesting, as I was subsequently told by the marina owners that the one at Bill Fen (third one down here) is Axe. I will try to post some more pics somewhere later. This one now has a very nicely built trad stern on it. Another distinguishing feature is sections cut out of the hull sides to give lower opening side hatches. It is also irridescent mauve with upvc window units though that might be an even later addition! Any ideas about the one at Rothens (fourth one down)? And do River and Admiralty class have different hull shapes? Axe was purple 10 years ago when down at Cropredy (It was painted under the Mway bridge at Banbury). She did have a good counter stern conversion. There's one on the GU between weedon and whilton in a very nice Barlows livery (? ?). Nicer than BW colours, I guess..
magnetman Posted September 10, 2007 Report Posted September 10, 2007 I think the one at Dodford is DEE, and Taw, with full cabin and counter stern, is normally moored at Watford (herts).
Chertsey Posted September 10, 2007 Author Report Posted September 10, 2007 Sounds like this might well be Axe then.
carlt Posted September 10, 2007 Report Posted September 10, 2007 Sounds like this might well be Axe then. Certainly looks like it but the memory is dimmed by Fairport excesses.
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