NB Dover

[buggsy]

Hi,

 

NB Dover from the TV series is for sale in Braunston at £98,000. What does everyone think? Fair price or overpriced?

Would you rather spend that sought of money on a new top of the range boat?

 

cheers

 

steve

[Christine]

It's getting cheaper!

[Liam]

It's getting cheaper!

Yeah, didn't it start out at something like £130,000 ?

 

I'm sorry to say that if I did get it given to me, as I don't have that sort of money but wouldn't buy it anyway, I would have to rip it out and refit.

[AMModels]

Hi,

 

NB Dover from the TV series is for sale in Braunston at £98,000. What does everyone think? Fair price or overpriced?

Would you rather spend that sought of money on a new top of the range boat?

 

cheers

 

steve

I wouldnt pay that much for her but she is beautifully restored and fitted out, travelled to Preston Brook with her in 2005 just after shed been finished off and she really looked nice...for me though like Liam Id rip out the conversion...I just wouldnt put anything in its place

[Hairy-Neil]

.......for me though like Liam Id rip out the conversion...I just wouldnt put anything in its place

 

I would....... a regular cargo.

[charles123]

I think the valuation is about right now, there has been much more gone into her than a regular top of the range boat. You would have to pay more than £100k for the spec in a new build. However I think its not sold because its too long for most, you cant walk through the boat to get to and from the stern and it does not look good, firstly because its a town class and they could have chosen a more attractive hull to mess around with and that glass sided cabin looks out of place on the boat

 

 

 

Charles

[Chris-B]

I think the valuation is about right now, there has been much more gone into her than a regular top of the range boat. You would have to pay more than £100k for the spec in a new build. However I think its not sold because its too long for most, you cant walk through the boat to get to and from the stern and it does not look good firstly because its a town class and they could have chosen a more attractive hull to mess around with and that glass sided cabin looks out of place on the boat

Charles

You offensive git !

pardon the first line but what do you know about the lines and purposes of working narrowboats anyhow, the Star and Town classes whilst not having the flowing curves of a Josher for example were built by men who knew boats and how to make the most out what the companies ordered. Yes the bows on a town are bluffer than a Josher Steamer , but how dare you state that they could have chose a more attractive hull

I suppose your utopian boat is one of the Steve Hudson genre with more curves than a female german porn star ! and false rivets so you dont have to do so much maintainance You are indeed a prat

Baldock

Town Class No 106

[Sir Nibble]

Having seen the tv series, might I suggest that the reason Dover is less than popular is that none of us want to be associated with the apparent ethos of the build, namely to spend as much money as possible.

[Liam]

it does not look good, firstly because its a town class and they could have chosen a more attractive hull to mess around

What next, pretty little lorries?

[charles123]

You offensive git !

pardon the first line but what do you know about the lines and purposes of working narrowboats anyhow, the Star and Town classes whilst not having the flowing curves of a Josher for example were built by men who knew boats and how to make the most out what the companies ordered. Yes the bows on a town are bluffer than a Josher Steamer , but how dare you state that they could have chose a more attractive hull

I suppose your utopian boat is one of the Steve Hudson genre with more curves than a female german porn star ! and false rivets so you dont have to do so much maintainance You are indeed a prat

Baldock

Town Class No 106

 

I really dont know why some members of the board seem to resort to being offensive, I expressed an opinion thats all, we dont have to agree but please moderate your language

 

Charles

[Chris-B]

I really dont know why some members of the board seem to resort to being offensive, I expressed an opinion thats all, we dont have to agree but please moderate your language

 

Charles

 

That was the moderated version ! ( I read your "posting" whilst trying to drink my morning coffee")

I replied in that manner so you were under no illusion of the strength of my feelings against your comments

And my comments still remain the same!

 

Chris

[carlt]

I think the valuation is about right now, there has been much more gone into her than a regular top of the range boat. You would have to pay more than £100k for the spec in a new build. However I think its not sold because its too long for most, you cant walk through the boat to get to and from the stern and it does not look good, firstly because its a town class and they could have chosen a more attractive hull to mess around with and that glass sided cabin looks out of place on the boat

Charles

It often surprises me when people make seemingly educated statements by using inappropriate terms. By Town Class, Charles, are you referring to the bluff, imposing lines of the Harland & Wolff big Woolwich, or perhaps the josher-like double curvature of the Yarwood's big Northwich? Maybe (though unlikely) you meant the Walker bros of Rickmansworth 6 planker who's bows, in their day, were likened to a greyhound (not sure which bit though).

 

You said in your 'what would you do with £170k' thread how you would treat a workboat (chop to 60' and put a cabin on, iirc) I thought the days of butchering historic boats and ruining their lines by making them look like clonecraft specials were behind us?

 

I own a Nurser and an Uxbridge motor nice little curvy 5 plankers but there is no finer sight than, on hearing a vintage engine approaching, going out and seeing the bows of a big Woolwich squeezing under bridge 97.

Edited June 7, 2007 by carlt

[Sir Nibble]

but there is no finer sight than, on hearing a vintage engine approaching, going out and seeing the bows of a big Woolwich squeezing under bridge 97.

 

Oh! My dear fellow! I can assure there are finer sights, but I won't go into that here.

[allybsc]

Oh! My dear fellow! I can assure there are finer sights, but I won't go into that here.

 

I'm sure there are...but can you see them through the beer goggles

[carlt]

Oh! My dear fellow! I can assure there are finer sights, but I won't go into that here.

Not under bridge 97 without being arrested there aren't.

Though I wish I'd had a camera when the hirer didn't realise Ivor Batchelor was dragging a butty and wedged both hire boat and Jellico firmly in the bridgehole.

[AMModels]

Not under bridge 97 without being arrested there aren't.

Though I wish I'd had a camera when the hirer didn't realise Ivor Batchelor was dragging a butty and wedged both hire boat and Jellico firmly in the bridgehole.

so do I

 

I agree with most of whats been said on this thread except for the posts by Charles, like others I hate the idea of old working boats getting chopped down because someone cant control 70ft without a bow thruster or they dont want a full length boat, there are enough excellent copy builders these days so that a proper working boat never needs to be messed about with again and the member on here who has bought a 70ft replica of a GU boat and even though it is fitted out undercloths he and his wife havent destroyed another piece of the history of the canals get my utmost respect.

 

If you want a 60ft chopped down boat have one built or wait til one that has already been butchered coms on the market but dont do it to an original huled boat just so you can control it or visit places on the canal where it wasnt built to go.

 

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[John Orentas]

I believe it can only be a good thing that old working boats are being made desirable, I am old enough to remember them rotting away all over the place. Even if they fall into the hands of the posers and hooray Henry's it doesn't matter that much, when they tire of the boats they will be sold on and another restored boat will be on the system.

[Adam]

5 oclock sky channel 252 there is a program about her

[tony collins]

NB Dover from the TV series is for sale in Braunston at £98,000. What does everyone think? Fair price or overpriced?

Would you rather spend that sought of money on a new top of the range boat?

 

cheers

 

steve

 

I notice she's under offer now.

 

Tony

[GRPCruiserman]

I found the original series pretty boring, all that fitting out stuff, but the 'Narrowboat Afloat' series was much better, what a shame he's selling the boat as it would have been interesting if he'd filmed other journeys. Shame he didn't film the trip up to Preston Brook, and perhaps he could have gone to Liverpool whilst up here, or even waited until the Liverpool Link opens and taken her down there.

 

A trip down the Trent would also have been interesting.

 

Although much travelled up here on Northern canals, I've never been south of Beeston on The Trent or Wolverhampton that way so I find more southerly canal programs very interesting, as I'm sure those of you who live down South would find programs about up here.

 

Looks lik no more 'Narrow Boat Afloat' programs then. They had a spate of 'New' series on various Discovery channels last year and the year before but they seem to have stopped now for some reason. Ah well, should ring Sky and reduce my package really.

[Christine]

I reckon the BBC should take up the baton now and do a sort of Canal/boating type 'Top Gear' programme...called...er...'Top Planks'

[Barry]

Well I like Narrow Boat Dover, I like the way it looks now, I like the way it was fitted out and I like Alan Herd

 

I'm a newcomer to the canals so don't have a full appreciation of the finer details of the old working boats but I know what I like and that's what's important to me

 

For the quality of the work and the way it looks I WOULD pay 98 grand for it - if I had it

[Timleech]

......... but what do you know about the lines and purposes of working narrowboats anyhow, the Star and Town classes whilst not having the flowing curves of a Josher for example were built by men who knew boats and how to make the most out what the companies ordered. Yes the bows on a town are bluffer than a Josher Steamer , but how dare you state that they could have chose a more attractive hull

I suppose your utopian boat is one of the Steve Hudson genre with more curves than a female german porn star ! and false rivets so you dont have to do so much maintainance

Baldock

Town Class No 106

 

Actually the lines aren't quite authentic 'Town Class' (large Woolwich) anyway

I bought her from BW at their big Northwich auction sale years ago, I'd gone there to try to buy a work flat but they were too much in demand! She'd been to Goole some years before for a 'BW rebuild', I had actually passed her on the M62!!

They had replated the counter apparently by removing the plating & allowed the framing to sag before welding up new plating. I decided to remedy that, & reshaped the counter to give a bit of lift almost like a small Woolwich, rather than the original flatter counter of the large version.

I'm told that when the new back cabin was put on for the TV people, it was done following the original Large Woolwich lines & it didn't look right with my reshaped counter, so they redid the whole thing

The stern looks quite good now, to my eye more pleasing though it's not 'authentic' & apparently it goes very well, but I wouldn't give tuppence for the conversion.

 

Tim

Edited June 9, 2007 by Timleech

[Bullfrog]

Well I like Narrow Boat Dover, I like the way it looks now, I like the way it was fitted out and I like Alan Herd

 

Well said Bazza!

 

When you consider how little TV exposure there is for other "fringe" activities eg dinghy sailing, vintage cars etc. I am always surprised how negative the reaction is on here to Waterworld, Dover, Locks and Quays etc.

 

Why can't we be a little bit grateful for programmes - any programmes - even remotely connected to our hobby/interest/lifestyle?

[Christine]

I like Alan Herd

 

mmm..............so do I