rustydiver Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Im thinking about fitting a few in the boat so we can charge phones etc from 12v instead off 12v to 240v back to 12v from the inverter but am having trouble finding good sockets it seems to be car cigarette type ones not flush mounted. Any ideas? the ones in the bedroom I'm thinking off changing the under cupboard l2 way light switch to a 3 way one to isolate it when not required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBiscuits Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 I bought a few of these from bimble and am pleased with how they work, but they do need to be switched as they have a very bright blue LED lit when powered. http://www.bimblesolar.com/extras/extras-other/12v-usb-socket Similar are available from ebay / amazon etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustydiver Posted September 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Thats what i was just looking at http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-in-1-Car-Kit-Double-USB-Outlet-Socket-Voltmeter-Voltage-Meter-12V-24V-BC552-/141994969845 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustydiver Posted September 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 i was hoping to find something like this but with usb sockets in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Contact Naughty Col she had some fitted last year. http://www.canalworld.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=78627&p=1632331 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 I think the 'prettiest' will probably be the CBE offering like this: http://www.jacksonsleisure.com/caravan-and-camping/electrical/sockets-switches/cbe-caravan-motorhome-12v-usb-charger-socket/ Alternatively you'll have to get creative and make your own I think. Not seen anything really attractive to date. The CBE sockets require a bezel of course: http://www.jacksonsleisure.com/caravan-and-camping/electrical/sockets-switches/cbe-outer-frames-support-frames/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Davis Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Thats what i was just looking at http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-in-1-Car-Kit-Double-USB-Outlet-Socket-Voltmeter-Voltage-Meter-12V-24V-BC552-/141994969845 Seen ones like those on one of the self-build camper forums and the general complaint is the meter is inaccurate, otherwise they are OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonesthenuke Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Seen ones like those on one of the self-build camper forums and the general complaint is the meter is inaccurate, otherwise they are OK. I have fitted one of those and the meter is OK, either correct or 1 digit out when compared to a DMM spot check. The resolution seems to be the limiting factor. The USB sockets work fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathanA Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 I think the 'prettiest' will probably be the CBE offering like this: http://www.jacksonsleisure.com/caravan-and-camping/electrical/sockets-switches/cbe-caravan-motorhome-12v-usb-charger-socket/ Alternatively you'll have to get creative and make your own I think. Not seen anything really attractive to date. The CBE sockets require a bezel of course: http://www.jacksonsleisure.com/caravan-and-camping/electrical/sockets-switches/cbe-outer-frames-support-frames/ How much... ? That's definitely the Marine price (add a nought) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john6767 Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Thats what i was just looking at http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-in-1-Car-Kit-Double-USB-Outlet-Socket-Voltmeter-Voltage-Meter-12V-24V-BC552-/141994969845 These come in lots of different configurations and with different mountings. I fittest a dual one with a cigarette lighter socket in one and a twin USB in the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odana Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Can something like this be wired into the 12v, so it charges direct? Or one of the standard wall sockets with usb, but blank out the 240 socket bit? Like rustydiver i want a few USB sockets and all I have seen are car ones https://www.euronetwork.co.uk/white-usb-a-wall-plate-with-cables-attached-with-2-metres-of-cable?utm_source=google_shopping&gclid=Cj0KEQjwvIO_BRDt27qG3YX0w4wBEiQAsGu3ebxgjaVkhyhjkpYtdGgQmPQWZ1tS7o3v7iy23mGQ71QaAr1u8P8HAQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanM Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Just be aware that USB sockets are 5V. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustydiver Posted September 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Just be aware that USB sockets are 5V. But are not all usb sockets 5V which is needed for iPhones Everything you wanted to know about charging your iPhone or iPad Source Voltage Current PC USB 5 volts 0.5 amps iPhone Charger 5 volts 1.0 amps iPad Charger 5.1 volts 2.1 amps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Can something like this be wired into the 12v, so it charges direct? Or one of the standard wall sockets with usb, but blank out the 240 socket bit? Like rustydiver i want a few USB sockets and all I have seen are car ones https://www.euronetwork.co.uk/white-usb-a-wall-plate-with-cables-attached-with-2-metres-of-cable?utm_source=google_shopping&gclid=Cj0KEQjwvIO_BRDt27qG3YX0w4wBEiQAsGu3ebxgjaVkhyhjkpYtdGgQmPQWZ1tS7o3v7iy23mGQ71QaAr1u8P8HAQ Not unless you also have a USB output to feed it with. That's just a socket on a back plate which is intended to be fed by a USB extender. How much... ? That's definitely the Marine price (add a nought) Yup. There are cheaper places to buy them than Jacksons but they're the only 'pretty' ones I've come across. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 But are not all usb sockets 5V which is needed for iPhones Everything you wanted to know about charging your iPhone or iPad Source Voltage Current PC USB 5 volts 0.5 amps iPhone Charger 5 volts 1.0 amps iPad Charger 5.1 volts 2.1 amps They come in various different charging rates. Select the one that suits your needs. Ours have two charging ports, one rated at 1.0A and the other rates at 2.1A. Link to the units we have below: (Don't think we paid that much though could be worth shopping around) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Car-12v-to-2-x-USB-Charger-Socket-2-1A-1A-Charging-for-iPad-iPhone-Samsung-etc-/281934744967?hash=item41a49ecd87:g:7x8AAOSwUuFWvykH We also got a double socket that has a 12v cigarette lighter type socket and a USB socket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 They come in various different charging rates. Select the one that suits your needs. Ours have two charging ports, one rated at 1.0A and the other rates at 2.1A. Link to the units we have below: (Don't think we paid that much though could be worth shopping around) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Car-12v-to-2-x-USB-Charger-Socket-2-1A-1A-Charging-for-iPad-iPhone-Samsung-etc-/281934744967?hash=item41a49ecd87:g:7x8AAOSwUuFWvykH We also got a double socket that has a 12v cigarette lighter type socket and a USB socket. The prices are staggering, given it will actually contain no more electronics than the equivalent item that can be plugged into a car lighter type socket. I fully understand why this is a neater and better solution, but given you can buy the electronics for under a quid, an extra £24 for what it is mounted in seems excessive! As has been pointed out elsewhere, if it is permanently illuminated if powered, it probably needs a switch in line as well, making it yet more expensive, and not quite the compact tidy solution it initially looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Link to the units we have below: (Don't think we paid that much though could be worth shopping around) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Car-12v-to-2-x-USB-Charger-Socket-2-1A-1A-Charging-for-iPad-iPhone-Samsung-etc-/281934744967?hash=item41a49ecd87:g:7x8AAOSwUuFWvykH. I bought a couple of those to fit in our cars and they're very good - like you I'm pretty sure I didn't pay that much. The prices are staggering... Similar but much cheaper direct from China http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/351454057303?lpid=122&chn=ps&adgroupid=27378760866&rlsatarget=pla-181484327586&adtype=pla&poi=&googleloc=1006966&device=m&campaignid=620865095&crdt=0&ul_ref=http%253A%252F%252Frover.ebay.com%252Frover%252F1%252F710-134428-41853-0%252F2%253Fmtid%253D1673%2526kwid%253D1%2526crlp%253D110919892746_563391%2526itemid%253D351454057303%2526targetid%253D181484327586%2526device%253Dm%2526mpre%253Dhttp%25253a%25252f%25252fwww.ebay.co.uk%25252fitm%25252flike%25252f351454057303%25253flpid%25253d122%252526chn%25253Dps%2526adtype%253Dpla%2526googleloc%253D1006966%2526poi%253D%2526campaignid%253D620865095%2526adgroupid%253D27378760866%2526rlsatarget%253Dpla-181484327586%2526gclid%253DCK3rgdD4n88CFSsq0wod5XwF5g%2526srcrot%253D710-134428-41853-0%2526rvr_id%253D1097201453245 And one of those dual sockets with a ciggy lighter socket: http://sinolec.co.uk/en/cigar-and-cigarette-lighter-plug-and-sockets/1211445-dual-usb-socket-and-car-cigarette-lighter-power-outlet.html?utm_source=GoogleShopping&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=ExportPrestashop&gclid=CJ_vvJ35n88CFUUW0wodLVgJ-w That's just with a 2 minute Google. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith. Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 http://www.force4.co.uk/blue-sea-dual-usb-charger-socket.html#.V-I5Tk0rLnA I have one of these. Expensive, fantastic quality and works well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Not unless you also have a USB output to feed it with. That's just a socket on a back plate which is intended to be fed by a USB extender. I'm pondering this very issue at the moment These are cheap: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131825300999?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT This might be better: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DC-DC-12V-to-5V-3A-15W-Dual-Female-Panel-Mount-USB-Step-Down-Power-Supply-Module/291485627554?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D39219%26meid%3Df918b0ed949f4544bd7a049182ea82d0%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D5%26sd%3D182252007302 Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detling Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 I have had ones that plug into sockets which interfere with the radio and ones that don't, The one that I have built into a socket from e-bay like the one above for a few pounds works well. It seems that are not all equal and price is no guide. They will all be built in China and some better than others but factory gate prices are probably only a few pennies different from the cheapest to the best, what the retailer sell it for is not related to quality. There is one advantage to the plug in type in that you can unplug it when not in use the wired in type will consume a few milliamps even with nothing connected, not really worth worrying about if you cruise or have solar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacka Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 For those with a 24v boat. Many of these say input voltage 12~24V, I connected one to my 24v system and works fine until you charge a smart phone that takes a current over 1A. It overheated the converter which went over voltage and fried the phone. Probably because with the engine running my 24V is more like 28.6v Fine on 12v supply via a buck converter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 For those with a 24v boat. Many of these say input voltage 12~24V, I connected one to my 24v system and works fine until you charge a smart phone that takes a current over 1A. It overheated the converter which went over voltage and fried the phone. Probably because with the engine running my 24V is more like 28.6v Fine on 12v supply via a buck converter. You would probably do better with something like this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DC-DC-Car-Power-Converter-Regulator-Adaptor-12V-24V-to-5V-10A-50W-Step-Down-Buck-/131881387382?hash=item1eb4be4576:g:-cIAAOSwNKRXjLJ~ That massive heat sink looks useful Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanM Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 But are not all usb sockets 5V which is needed for iPhones Everything you wanted to know about charging your iPhone or iPad[/size] Source Voltage Current PC USB 5 volts 0.5 amps iPhone Charger 5 volts 1.0 amps iPad Charger 5.1 volts 2.1 amps That's what I said, USB sockets are 5V. The OP was on about negating the need to go from 12V to 240V and back to 12V. I was pointing out that it isn't just a case of getting a 240V socket and wiring the USB sockets to the 12V supply as someone suggested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 That's what I said, USB sockets are 5V. The OP was on about negating the need to go from 12V to 240V and back to 12V. I was pointing out that it isn't just a case of getting a 240V socket and wiring the USB sockets to the 12V supply as someone suggested. That would be exciting for a short while Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 I'm pondering this very issue at the moment These are cheap: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131825300999?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT This might be better: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DC-DC-12V-to-5V-3A-15W-Dual-Female-Panel-Mount-USB-Step-Down-Power-Supply-Module/291485627554?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D39219%26meid%3Df918b0ed949f4544bd7a049182ea82d0%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D5%26sd%3D182252007302 Richard I quite like the challenge of the latter plus a bit of metalwork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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