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I have not been fishing since I was a lad of 11 so and that was 57 years ago - what kit would I need to get to maybe start canal fishing again? What would a reasonable set up cost these days?

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Dave

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First you need camouflage clothing. Not sure why but a lot of fisherman are wearing it. Also the largest trolley you can buy so you can take all your equipment including a rod bag full of rods when the only one used is a extra long rod to reach to the other bank.

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I have not been fishing since I was a lad of 11 so and that was 57 years ago - what kit would I need to get to maybe start canal fishing again? What would a reasonable set up cost these days?

Cheers

 

Dave

I have a fair selection of kit but all I use now is a telescopic whip and a few pre tied rigs, easy quick and I picked 2 up from a car boot for a tenner

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I have a fair selection of kit but all I use now is a telescopic whip and a few pre tied rigs, easy quick and I picked 2 up from a car boot for a tenner

This is good advice as a place to start again - and it looks like you're gonna get quite a lot that's somewhat less than useful or supportive! :D

 

You're gonna need really fine tackle for general canal fishing (as opposed to carp or predator fishing) as the fish are small and shy. You'll be surprised how small good canal floats are, and how far you shot them down. When you see folks fishing with a big lump of orange sticking out of the water, they're the numpties; if you can see little other than a whisker (often only not sinking because of a wee bit of petroleum jelly on the bristle to hold it on the surface tension) that's someone doing it right. If you Google whip fishing, I'm sure you'll find most of what you need to know. The more interest you take, the better you'll get at it too.

 

Remember, 90% of fish are caught by 10% of anglers, so you'll be lucky to get properly good advice from the majority of anglers, let alone those who've never done it, or done it so badly that they packed in! Good luck :)

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This is good advice as a place to start again - and it looks like you're gonna get quite a lot that's somewhat less than useful or supportive! :D

 

You're gonna need really fine tackle for general canal fishing (as opposed to carp or predator fishing) as the fish are small and shy. You'll be surprised how small good canal floats are, and how far you shot them down. When you see folks fishing with a big lump of orange sticking out of the water, they're the numpties; if you can see little other than a whisker (often only not sinking because of a wee bit of petroleum jelly on the bristle to hold it on the surface tension) that's someone doing it right. If you Google whip fishing, I'm sure you'll find most of what you need to know. The more interest you take, the better you'll get at it too.

 

Remember, 90% of fish are caught by 10% of anglers, so you'll be lucky to get properly good advice from the majority of anglers, let alone those who've never done it, or done it so badly that they packed in! Good luck :)

Depends on the canal, I used to fish and catch loads on the Llan using a stick float and trotting, loads of dace.

Yeah overall fine floats and well shotted a good selection of simple rigs to find where there feeding and off you go

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get second hand stuff does not need to be expensive since buying a boat Ilike using a centre pin and float fish have a folding net I believe Aldi are doing fishing gear on Sunday fifty pounds should easy get you started

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I have not been fishing since I was a lad of 11 so and that was 57 years ago - what kit would I need to get to maybe start canal fishing again? What would a reasonable set up cost these days?

Cheers

 

Dave

 

 

I take it you are just a leisure, as in not wanting to be a specimen angler, Either way it is cheap for good gear nowadays, the cheap gear from back then was good enough and when carbo fibre came around well it only got better and even now a cheap carbon rod will be a whole lot better and at a dam good price.

I say rod but would you like to use a pole, can you use a pole? there is a nack to it when it gets to and over 8 meters long which is what i would suggest to get, always get the longest you can afford for all situations, you may find you need to get to the other bank side where most of the fish are.

Poles are best on a canal but rod and reel are great, i use a center pin a lot and love it with a soft all through 13 foot waggler rod.

 

If you need a full kit out it will depend on what you want to go for rod and reel or pole and budgets can satrt from a few hundred to thousands very easily.

 

Makes, i try to go Daiwa or Shimano, you know you are going to get good quality tackle.

 

If i was you to get started,

 

10m pole

pole seat box and rollers

and a selection of ready made pole rigs

 

a quick ebay for you.

 

get a silver fish pole though, the seat can work if sat side ways but long sessions can be triring.

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/11m-Take-Apart-Carp-Fishing-Pole-Set-Rigs-Tripods-Rollers-Chair-Brolly-Keepnet-/301665589109?hash=item463cab9775:g:H9sAAOSwLVZV0jnI

 

 

mite be to much but great poles

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Maver-Strong-Arm-11m-Pole-Package-Coarse-Match-Fishing-B7345-/371642288216?hash=item56879b4858:g:EJIAAOSwnDxUq-3S

 

full second hand kit will do the job

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pole-course-Fishing-job-lot-/232015232709?hash=item36052f7ec5:g:GJ8AAOSwqfNXijw~

 

And get a take apart not telescopic pole.

 

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First you need camouflage clothing. Not sure why but a lot of fisherman are wearing it. Also the largest trolley you can buy so you can take all your equipment including a rod bag full of rods when the only one used is a extra long rod to reach to the other bank.

 

 

Well it always strikes me the camo clothing is necessary so the bailiff can't see you, haha!

 

The £500 stupidly long pole amuse me though. Why not just sit on the opposite bank and use a £5 ebay rod?

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Well it always strikes me the camo clothing is necessary so the bailiff can't see you, haha!

 

The £500 stupidly long pole amuse me though. Why not just sit on the opposite bank and use a £5 ebay rod?

As a man I once watched demonstrating fly casting said about the thrashing efforts of some "as everyone knows the best fish are always at the other end of the Loch".

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When I was a lad I used to buy my fishing gear cheaply from Woolworths. I used to go on the Thames at Reading or the Kennet and catch decent fish. Now, many years later, I have gear worth many hundreds of pounds and I can go to the Thames or Kennet and catch decent fish.

Moral: expensive gear does not make you a better fisherman, just a poorer one.

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When I was a lad I used to buy my fishing gear cheaply from Woolworths. I used to go on the Thames at Reading or the Kennet and catch decent fish. Now, many years later, I have gear worth many hundreds of pounds and I can go to the Thames or Kennet and catch decent fish.

Moral: expensive gear does not make you a better fisherman, just a poorer one.

 

 

I demonstrate the opposite effect. No matter how cheap or expensive the gear I use, I can't catch anything!

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Why dont you buy your tools from Aldi? :) the difference in weight and diameter between a £200 pole and a £500 pole is amazing

Pole fishing is a technique that allows absolutely accurate fishing in awkward spots and allows spot on groundbaiting/feeding, also because of the way the rigs (floats hooks etc) are set up it allows almost instant and easy change of fishing spots

Any decent angler will have two/three swims on the go at any one time, one being fished the others being fed

 

 

 

Well it always strikes me the camo clothing is necessary so the bailiff can't see you, haha!

 

The £500 stupidly long pole amuse me though. Why not just sit on the opposite bank and use a £5 ebay rod?

Sorry about the stupid miss quote thing, bloody phone

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I went into a top quality fishing tackle shop to buy camouflage clothing.

 

Searched high and low and couldn't see it.

 

Rog

 

If you have a Decathlon sports shop near you, they sell a telescopic fishing rod with reel for around £12 (when I bought mine).

It does the job very well. The skill is not in the price of the tackle.

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Being more serious, I saw a perch caught in the cut at Oxford a couple of years ago. I was staggered how big they get. Must have been getting on for 15" long and with a mouth big enough to swallow a snooker ball.

 

I meet chaps fishing 'light' for perch regularly on the towpath. Just a conventional rod and reel, landing net and small bag over their shoulder. What is the bait and technique for perch fishing like this? I'm very tempted to have a try.

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Being more serious, I saw a perch caught in the cut at Oxford a couple of years ago. I was staggered how big they get. Must have been getting on for 15" long and with a mouth big enough to swallow a snooker ball.

 

I meet chaps fishing 'light' for perch regularly on the towpath. Just a conventional rod and reel, landing net and small bag over their shoulder. What is the bait and technique for perch fishing like this? I'm very tempted to have a try.

The point about light is just that, basic tackle and minimal gear, so you can just go for a walk and happen to do a bit of fishing

 

I used to fish like this a lot on the Dee near Chester, plus a really small feeder stream that was stuffed with small brown trout, light rod, low breaking strain line, small hooks

As for perch either simple lure/spinning gear or basic float with worm or maggots as bait

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Being more serious, I saw a perch caught in the cut at Oxford a couple of years ago. I was staggered how big they get. Must have been getting on for 15" long and with a mouth big enough to swallow a snooker ball.

 

I meet chaps fishing 'light' for perch regularly on the towpath. Just a conventional rod and reel, landing net and small bag over their shoulder. What is the bait and technique for perch fishing like this? I'm very tempted to have a try.

 

 

i use these type and they are good for easy storage on boats, if you want to spin or plug for perch i would rather use these as there is always a chance you can get into a good Pike and these rods have a bit more backbone to them for holding a bigger fish back, i have had a near double Pike on one with ease. They are even ok to us a flow rod close in with big lob worm for Perch. Oh and dont forget a wire trace if Pike are expected aswell as the Perch

Good thing about using plugs and spinners is no need to go and get bait and aslong as you dont loose them they can last years.

 

You can go for miles with a small spinning rod a ruck seat etc. great way to get about fishing.

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Well it always strikes me the camo clothing is necessary so the bailiff can't see you, haha!

 

The £500 stupidly long pole amuse me though. Why not just sit on the opposite bank and use a £5 ebay rod?

 

 

cant get to the other bank and more likely private land. Also when your are faffing making a noise if you do get to the other bank you will just spook the fish.

 

£500 for a 14m pole is cheap and would be like holding a floppy telegraph poke. Best to pay more like a £1000 and more, mate has one that cost him near £5000 at 16m. can hold it with one hand, but that is serious gear.

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cant get to the other bank and more likely private land. Also when your are faffing making a noise if you do get to the other bank you will just spook the fish.

 

£500 for a 14m pole is cheap and would be like holding a floppy telegraph poke. Best to pay more like a £1000 and more, mate has one that cost him near £5000 at 16m. can hold it with one hand, but that is serious gear.

 

 

No wonder they don't like it when I ride my bike over them then!!

(Kidding really. I fully understand about not spooking the fish.)

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I used to go fishing every weekend when I was a kid but when I discovered the world of boats i just stopped.

 

Since then ive tried taking my gear with me but that's obviously very impractical.

 

Probably the best thing for just "mucking about" is a telescopic whip, with a small collection of small pole floats, weights and hooks. This tends to work the best as you can remove the setup and stick it on a pole rig for future use.

 

I do prefer the use of a rod and wheel so when I do go fishing its with a telescopic rod. There are some good ones about. The only downside is that unless you want to get into a bit of a mess with your line or risk hooking somebody you have to set up each time.

 

Obviously with whatever way you chopse to fish don't forget the importance of a disgorger and always try and use a landling net.

 

Tight lines :)

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Canals contain small fish and large ones. Targeting the small ones is easy, any whip or three piece float rod with a few floats, split shot, some size 18 hooks to nylon and a disgorger will cover it. That will land anything up to a couple of pounds weight.

 

Beyond that things get specialised, but you can still buy a carp rod for twenty quid that will cover pike, tench, chub, eels and most other things that swim in the cut. You'll need a landing net and a national license, plus a ticket for whatever stretch of canal you're on, though realistically most rural stretches of cut are lightly bailiffed and you are unlikely to get caught fishing from a boat. I've seen carp to 30 lbs caught in canals - a bit like hooking a passing car - and they doubtless grow larger. A large eel is like playing a Tazmanian Devil, but such eventualities are better experienced than explained.

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Well thanks for the replys folk. Still considering the idea but i can see i could spend from a few pounds to several hundred. One thing is certain - after being a narrowboat owner for 12 or so years i won't be one of the grumpy so and so's that never speak to passing boaters!

 

May see you on a towpath soon.

 

Dave

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If your into feeder fishing.

  • 10ft - 12ft through action feeder rod 2lb test curve
  • Rear drag reel loaded with 6lb mainline
  • Hooklength line 3lb
  • Cage feeders
  • Method feeders
  • Size 8 to 16 hooks

If you into float fishing

  • 12ft through action rod 1lb to 1.5lb test curve
  • front or rear drag reel 4lb line mainline
  • Hooklength link 1lb to 3lb
  • Waggler floats (if canal)
  • Stick floats (if river)
  • Size 8 to 20 Hooks
  • Split shot

General bits and bobs needed

  • Chair
  • Landing net and handle (handle about 10ft long) (net around 22")
  • Unhooking mat
  • Bait boxes, bucket
  • Catapult
  • Rod rests x 2 with one head suitable for allowing free line to run for feeder.
  • Disgorger (important)

Average cost? Depends if you are a tackle tart. But Id say around £300 to 500 to get going

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when I was a kid I often caught bleak in the Thames, quite often the bleak suddenly got heavier as I reeled it in and when I lifted the catch out there would be a sizeable perch on the end.

 

my first, and unintentional experiences of live bait.

 

these days I never even get a bite.

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