Cold weather wood glue?

[GSer]

Its been a nice few days, bright but cold, great for working, so i've got stuck in making a dining table, i had to glue it up in a few stages (30 bits to assemble) but its become noticable my normal reliable evostick/bostic weatherproof pva glue is failing to perform normally, staying white for ages instead of drying to clear. The can says don't use at less than 6 deg.

 

So what can i use? I doubt its got warmer than 6 deg all weekend in the hold.

 

Are there any wood glues about that allow the flexibility and strength of my normal stuff but works OK in the cold.

[Guest]

Epoxy?

 

http://www.westsystem.com/ss/cold-temperature-bonding/

[Jerra]

Epoxy?

 

http://www.westsyste...rature-bonding/

 

Are epoxy glues flexible?

[Brin Morris]

The problem is that the white pva woodglues are waterbased. I use lots of different woodglues and although some will perform better at lower temps than others I have never been successful in glueing anything in really cold weather. You may think it has stuck but the bond will be a lot weaker if glued in very cold weather.

The best I have used is D4 wood adhesive for colder weather.

http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Adhesives+Sealants/Wood+Adhesive+PVA/d180/sd3198

Edited December 2, 2012 by Brin Morris

[John V]

what about polyurethane glues? such as PUR Glue by TGP or "Gorilla Glue", I believe Screwfix do their own brand version as well. The writing has just about been worn of the pots that I have so I can't be sure of the temp range. There has to be a fairly high moisture content in the wood for it to bond well, when it does though it sticks like the proverbial to the blanket.

[GSer]

I must admit i've not used many epoxy glues for wood, i've remember using araldite, its either brilliant or crap seemingly nothing in between for me.

 

I'll have a look for some D4.

 

Polyurathane wood glues are ok and i have used them a bit in the past, i don't enjoy using them though and for me i like to enjoy what i do for a hobby.

 

Luckily most of the table is mechanically sound with close joints and of overlapping construction, i've now lit the back cabin stove and stacked the bits in there overnight, thats as good as i can do for now. On closer inspection its mostly the endgrain joints that are playing up, no surprises there!

 

Paul

[Guest]

Are epoxy glues flexible?

It would appear so:

 

http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/Aerospace/Aircraft/Prod_Info/Prod_Catalog/?PC_7_RJH9U5230GE3E02LECIE20SOG5000000_nid=JTG3V307B4be1K3HXBTMF8gl

[blackrose]

Are epoxy glues flexible?

 

A wooden boatbuilder at work repairs teak with epoxy adhesive, but I can't remember the manufacturer. I thought it was Epifanes, but I can't find it on google.

[Teadaemon]

Epoxy doesn't normally like temperatures below about 15 degrees C, though you may find a specialist formulation that works at a somewhat lower temperature. I've had trouble getting it to cure in weather warmer than we've got at the moment - I ended up building a tent from polythene sheeting and putting an oil filled electric radiator in there to warm things up.

[Colin Smith]

I've used Woodweld in sub-zero temperatures. In fact I've used it for all the timber construction with hardwood (Iroko), ply and softwoods. Superb stuff.

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