Heather Moggridge Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Can anyone tell me which boatyard built Springer narrowboats? My husband and I have just bought an old hull and are currently refurbishing her. She is called 'Alisa' (same name as Napoleons sister, I believe). Its my job to paint her details on the side of the boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Can anyone tell me which boatyard built Springer narrowboats? My husband and I have just bought an old hull and are currently refurbishing her. She is called 'Alisa' (same name as Napoleons sister, I believe). Its my job to paint her details on the side of the boat. Springers were once the most prolific steel boats on the canals. The company traded under various names I think, but was usually something like "Springer Engineering". (At one stage it was P.J.Smith trading as Springer Engineering....) It was named after it's owner, (Sam Springer - I don't know who P.J.Smith was!). I'm not at all sure all were built at the same location. They were an established steel fabricator who saw an opportunity to branch out (very successfully) into canal boatsin the late 1960s, and continued to build narrowboats into the early 1990s. Certainly they traded from Market Harborough at one stage, but whether all boats were built there, I'm not sure. Can you tell us more about yours, and do you have any reliable information about it's age, please ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted September 22, 2009 Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Certainly many of them emanated from Market Harborough. A photo of Alisa would help to guestimate its age, as styles changed a bit during Springers' long production run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather Moggridge Posted September 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2009 Can anyone tell me which boatyard built Springer narrowboats? My husband and I have just bought an old hull and are currently refurbishing her. She is called 'Alisa' (same name as Napoleons sister, I believe). Its my job to paint her details on the side of the boat.It was built in 1978 and its number is 65100. It sank in Paddington apparantly in 2003 (it was a residential boat) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyfan Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 It was named after it's owner, (Sam Springer - I don't know who P.J.Smith was!). I believe he was the son-in-law. (Sits back and wait to be shot down in flames ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 I believe he was the son-in-law. (Sits back and wait to be shot down in flames ) Mr. Fan, do you know of any documentation or historical articles about the firm? For a company so crucial to the development of pleasure boating for so long, it does seem very mysterious. I'd love to read more about them. Incidentally I see that our cars are related, though the Athymobile comes from the quieter Forester branch of the family! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather Moggridge Posted September 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 Springers were once the most prolific steel boats on the canals. The company traded under various names I think, but was usually something like "Springer Engineering". (At one stage it was P.J.Smith trading as Springer Engineering....) It was named after it's owner, (Sam Springer - I don't know who P.J.Smith was!). I'm not at all sure all were built at the same location. They were an established steel fabricator who saw an opportunity to branch out (very successfully) into canal boatsin the late 1960s, and continued to build narrowboats into the early 1990s. Certainly they traded from Market Harborough at one stage, but whether all boats were built there, I'm not sure. Can you tell us more about yours, and do you have any reliable information about it's age, please ? Springers were once the most prolific steel boats on the canals. The company traded under various names I think, but was usually something like "Springer Engineering". (At one stage it was P.J.Smith trading as Springer Engineering....) It was named after it's owner, (Sam Springer - I don't know who P.J.Smith was!). I'm not at all sure all were built at the same location. They were an established steel fabricator who saw an opportunity to branch out (very successfully) into canal boatsin the late 1960s, and continued to build narrowboats into the early 1990s. Certainly they traded from Market Harborough at one stage, but whether all boats were built there, I'm not sure. Can you tell us more about yours, and do you have any reliable information about it's age, please ? I forgot to thank you all for the info. It was very useful. I had just got in from line dancing (yes I know how sad I am!) so it was quite late and I forgot my manners. I will post a photo as soon as I have one. But the mechanic - my better half - hasn't been recording his progress. He is currently gloating because he has finished the shower and 'it looks incredible' We live quite a distance from the boatyard so I haven't seen it since we bought it. I spelt its name wrong - its Elisa not Alisa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony collins Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 "Sam" Springer's yard was almost in the centre of Market Harborough Not far off the A427 after leaving the cross with the (old) A6 on the way towards Corby. The "Smith" company moved to a new factory further out of the town on the same road. One thing about Springers, they never pretended to be anything other than cheap boats. You could wander in to the factory and see the boats being built, including the 3mm ply (and steel) and self tapping screws. They have allowed a lot of people to get on to the waters in a steel boat that otherwise would not have been able to do so. Tony. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pentargon Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Rather than start a new thread I thought I'd tag onto this one if that's ok? I'm about to become owner/driver of a 36' Springer and would love to touch base with others in a similar pickle or better still with people who have been well-pickled in Springer sauce. Any takers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Quo Vadis Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 (edited) I was lent a book "Boatbuilders of Market Harborough" Ref: 2439 by Bob Hakewill. that tells you all you need to know about Springers, you can buy it here Their original factory was in Mill Hill and made tanks for water / heating oil etc prior to branching into boats. I well remember Harborough traffic being brought to a standstill whenever a boat was squeezed from the factory and out onto the A427 St.Mary's Road. Latterly they moved to a nice new factory on the Welland Industrial Estate adjacent to Rockingham Road, but went under soon after. Edited December 10, 2011 by Quo Vadis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benfordboy Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Rather than start a new thread I thought I'd tag onto this one if that's ok? I'm about to become owner/driver of a 36' Springer and would love to touch base with others in a similar pickle or better still with people who have been well-pickled in Springer sauce. Any takers? Dad has a 37' Springer ,Previously owned by the Late Graham Capelin who was an avid supporter of the waterways. Graham won several prizes I believe at various IWA shows in the London Area with the boat made up as a Tube Train (Unfortunately we have never managed to track down any pics of it in that guise) We do have the original London Transport poster advertising the event. We have borrowed the boat on several occasions when our cruiser was out of action - Cruising both canals & Tidal rivers (Trent & Thames) & found her to behave very well in all manners. Springers are not everyones cup of tea (We have been called a 'Floating skip' by some !)but Sam Springer brought narrowboating to the masses in the way Norman & Dawncraft delivered boating to folks in an earlier age. The slightly 'unfinished' look (Unground welds etc) now make the boats look a little rough around the edges compared with modern NB's (At least he never stuck on 'False' rivets!) Many folks (As a previous post) point fingers at thin hulls - Sam apparently used what ever steel he could lay his hands on at the 'right price' to build the boats - Some have thinner hulls than others - It's a testament to the legacy to see how many Springers are still afloat. Buying one today - It may be worth a hull survey to check things are ok , & check out the BMC Engine that was commonly but not always fitted (Not everyone has looked after the British Bullet!) Not our boat - But we love em for what they are (They are almost as low on the Nb pecking order as our GRP craft ! - ie just above GRP & Hire boats ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryP Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 There was an interesting article in one of the canal mags a year or 2 back (I think in 2 parts) all about the Springer story. I'll see if I can dig them out..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Quo Vadis Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 Ah well .... back to Specsavers .... just realised this thread is from Sept 2009 heee haw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 Nice row of targets on the far bank... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hastings Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 (edited) I was lent a book "Boatbuilders of Market Harborough" by Bob Hakewill. that tells you all you need to know about Springers You can also get the book from us at Audlem Mill or via www.canalbookshop.co.uk - look for Boats & Craft on the menu on the left. We had a late 1970s Springer 28' from about 1981 to 1986, and travelled extensively in it. Once, going down the Macc in a drought period when water levels were low, we hit an underwater obstruction south of Congleton. It split a weld somewhere underneath, and water came in. The bilge pump coped just about, till we managed to get the boat slipped out at David Piper's yard at Red Bull, Kidsgrove. You'll appreciate that they were a bit sniffy at having a Springer in their yard, so we had it taken by lowloader to the Middlewich dry dock, where Chris Cliff's people set about welding a bit of steel on. A low cost repair, and all then went well. We sold the boat to be a spare bedroom for teenagers in London. Forward 23 years, and I saw our boat again a bit north of Suttons Stop on the Coventry Canal just two years ago! It still looked good. Springers seem to go on for ever! Edited December 10, 2011 by Hastings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 There was an interesting article in one of the canal mags a year or 2 back (I think in 2 parts) all about the Springer story. I'll see if I can dig them out..... You are most kind. I did try to make them interesting! They were in Canal Boat, latter part of 2010, I have saved these copies but do not have them to hand to quote the exact dates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalesman Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 You might find this interesting 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 Good stuff, DM - if I remember rightly you sent me those when I was researching my Canal Boat articles. At least one CWF member has a Springer "tug style", though it is a bit different from what would pass as a tug these days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie Booth Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 Yep, it's me with the Springer Tug. Not that I knew what it was until I joined this great forum, It's 35ft So if Pentargon wants to view it, no problems, she's moored in Birmingham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benfordboy Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 Yep, it's me with the Springer Tug. Not that I knew what it was until I joined this great forum, It's 35ft So if Pentargon wants to view it, no problems, she's moored in Birmingham Laurie We have seen yr Springer whilst cruising about in our Norman a few yrs ago - Always thought it was a Owner mod !! Is yours the only one ?? Never seen another like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie Booth Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 (edited) Hi Benfordboy, I must admit I haven't seen another boat like mine. There should be more about. Where did you see my boat? Edited December 11, 2011 by Laurie.Booth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albion Posted December 11, 2011 Report Share Posted December 11, 2011 Hi Benfordboy, I must admit I haven't seen another boat like mine. There should be more about. Where did you see my boat? An acquaintance of mine had one. In fact he claimed that his enquiry of Springer resulted in the trad style being built. Whether there was any truth in his claim I have no idea. I certainly went on his and even toyed with the idea of buying one at one time. Can't remember the name of his now as it must have been around the late 80s maybe. Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzard Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 We have thee Springers here,a 60 foot cruiser mid 80's,a 36'cruiser 1970'Lister SR2. both ex hire and a 38'Trad which was originally painted brown and called Wensleydale Heffer,i believe it hung around on the Tring summit during the late 80's early 90's,original owner was a butcher so i'm told.He cut off its little bow washboards, someone on here may remember it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Lewis Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 Dad has a 37' Springer ,Previously owned by the Late Graham Capelin who was an avid supporter of the waterways. Graham won several prizes I believe at various IWA shows in the London Area with the boat made up as a Tube Train (Unfortunately we have never managed to track down any pics of it in that guise) We do have the original London Transport poster advertising the event. <Snip> Canalway Cavalcade 1991: Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurie Booth Posted December 12, 2011 Report Share Posted December 12, 2011 I must get that top for my Springer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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