PaulD

I read that the rudder wasn’t working and the current took it towards the bridge. Was supposed to go another direction to be refuelled and out to sea.

Have you measured it at 40mm ? Many stocks are 1.5 inch which is different.

I asked for a quote from GJW but they couldn’t cope with my total of sail away cost plus separate professional fitting out cost as price of boat. They had no idea what I was talking about so I gave up.

New boat ??

An “authorised representative” (based in the eu) is appointed by a non eu based manufacturer to obtain CE marking, hold the technical files and deal with the eu authorities.

I guess your reference to stolen goods relates to the consequences of selling a boat which does not have required CE marking. The agent would claim it is the sellers problem. A judge might not agree as he would say the agent is a professional business who should know better than to sell such a boat. The buyer would then have a valid claim against the broker under the Consumer Rights Act. Might happen one day.

Most of the brokers say in their t&c that they are acting as “agent”for the seller. Under common law an agent is not responsible for illegal acts of the principal (in this case the seller of the boat) and are merely acting under his instructions. Does the RCR change this ? “Supply chain” and “ distributor” are used in the RCR but without clear definitions. I don’t know but if I was a broker I would be concerned.

So would “supply chain” then include the haulage company, crane supplier etc ? I don’t understand why the RCD / RCR define the term distributor in such a vague way? The whole issue then seems to be whether a broker selling second hand boats is part of this supply chain and is a “distributor”.

I believe there is no legal definition of a “distributor” in the UK. I believe there is in Germany and Spain. It’s a pity the RCD / RCR doesn’t define their references to a distributor as this seems to be the subject causing so much confusion. Internationally it is understood that a distributor buys and resells a product. A broker would normally act as an agent for the buyer or seller and is not a distributor.

My point was that RCD does not say that using a boat is illegal if it is not CE marked, which has been suggested in earlier posts. I was not referring to selling the boat.

It’s a bit of a stretch to infer that use of a non RCD boat is illegal as there was a specific exemption for user built boats. RCR might be different ?? What about a home made bicycle like mine. Is it illegal to ride it as I didn’t CE mark it.

I worked for the NCB. So it was you that caused all the confusion !

Probably 8.5mm2. It is a standard size.

Apologies for the curve ball. I did say that it was from building regs. and it was offered as an example where compliance with an ISO / BS standard is mandatory. “Have to” applies only if the ISO standard is mandatory. At risk of another curve ball, I was involved with preparing some CE technical files for mobile plant where we could not realistically comply with some applicable ISO standards e.g fencing, so had to demonstrate that other reasonable safety measures were being provided.