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AWWW Bless! T&C

Is it worse than being called Dickhead then LOL Tommys chosen insult in a previous post.

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Hi Martain I think I recall the thread, My annoyance was with regard to your antics with regard to misquoting another's post and what I considered demeaning to a specific female poster. My annoyance was not so much with the point you were trying to making which was an opinion you were perfectly entitled to view. I might not be correct with regard to the actual thread, but it's what I recall. I certainly didn't complain to any mod either. With regard to this thread, I have maintained consistently that if your hit by a hire boat, your claim is against the hire company. People seem to believe different. However as I's already pointed out, not only have I taken legal advice on this issue having been hit by a hire boat ourselves which is documented on here somewhere. But clearly there are 6 other instances of other boaters claiming from the hire boat company. In addition I have posted terms and conditions from hire boat companies that clearly state that the hirer indemnifies the Hire Boat Company in the event of any claim made against the company. We also have including the thread which I recall Starcoaster posted in 2013 7 instances of boats being hit by a hire boat the 3rd parties claiming against the hire boat company, that including today. Now being in business as I have been for 30 years + I can assure you that if I wasn't liable for something I certainly wouldn't be paying up as no responsible company would. Yet we see 7 instances of hire boat companies accepting liability and paying up according to members postings. Now you and others can question what I have stated as much as you please, however no one has offered up anything credible to counteract my position other than nonsense and opinion. And there's 7 instances of claims from Hire boat companies, and terms & conditions of a hire company that clearly contradict any belief any claim is against the hirer. Like as has happened to yourself previously Martin I suspect that people are jumping on band wagons as they do, and I freely admit that I did the same regarding some of your previous postings going back a year or so, and have mostly chosen to ignore you over the past year. Recently though IMO your what I considered your awful tone and manner back then have been much softened over the past several months, and even felt the need to back you up with regard to some of the really idiot posters on here, some new some older. People can disagree with me as much as they wish, If they choose to not believe what I'm saying, then fine, but I will continue to defend the position I know to be correct. Been there done that! I generally post on this forum to offer help and ideas/experiences to other boaters. I don't bull sh1te and I don't lie. If people don't believe my fine. But I would suggest though to take legal advise if hit by a hire boat, they do try to fob claimants off as attested by members postings and I have experienced the same myself, hence legal advice. I have to say recently on this forum there have been some right idiots posting complete and utter crap and trying to rile long term members. Over the past 6 months or so this forum IMO has degraded enormously and many good and interesting members have sadly disappeared. The reason why is clearly obvious from reading postings this thread. I will add though Martin I have more respect for you than most members currently on here, and have to agree you'r a much nicer bloke than sometimes comes over on this forum. I do expect this comment to be thrown back in my face though Anyway I'm off, to many Twonks LOL The person liable pays. Look up the word liable or liability.

Think outside the box, probably an impossibility in your case though

Who's Ian More twaddle LOL

So the liability is passed on, thank you!

It's quite breath taking that someone can't understand simple terms and conditions of a hire company. And completely disregards the fact, that there now 7 instances of boaters claiming, Correctly from the HIRE BOAT COMPANY in the event of a collision. Wood for the trees. Really, maybe you should read through the thread again. Already answered, you really should pay attention is that better? Again nonsense, you can claim against you believe is liable which the hire company clearly is. I'm stunned again you cant understand the terms and conditions. THE HIRER WILL INDEMNIFY THE COMPANY Only an idiot would take the hirer to court. His defense would be that his contract with regard to insurance was with the hire company, and fulfilled his/her liability by paying a deposit or waver, end of. I note the latest claimant is claiming from the boat company and Anglo Welsh are paying for the damage caused. I now make that 7 claims against hire boat companies, and, well do I really need to keep repeating myself. LOL just for you. Probably as you're talking the same nonsense as others. Well, another claim from a HIRE BOAT COMPANY who have agreed to settle, and you still don't get it

A superior sense of humour possibly

Happy as Larry

I'm not wrong LOL What a shame you have to resort to that, says more about you me thinks. Please do the courtesy of supplying some kind of evidence I'm wrong as I have done for you. It seems this was debated last year. As well as myself, I recall that not only Starcoaster successfully claimed from the HIRE Company, but an accompanying boat in the same incident did also. Also reading through that thread it appears a couple of other boaters made claims from HIRE companies following similar impacts. So five successful claims from hire boaters. Not heard yet of any claim against a hirer. Surprise Surprise. It's not my fault people can't see the wood for the trees and post complete and utter bollox based on nothing what so ever. I would suggest that anyone having an issue with a hire boat collision get information from a solicitor. Hire boat companies will be laughing their socks off at the ignorance shown on here by certain posters, and easily fob people off based on some of the crap posted, Include yourself in that Tommy.

Clearly you do Muppet LOL Only joking t&c I'm laughing LOL Nite!

Because they undertake to do so by being required to have insurance. The hire company has an agreement with the hirer, as you can see in the terms and conditions allowing the the right for the hire company to claim back from the hirer any claims they may receive from a 3rd party. Again the hirer liability is to the company and why the hire companies require a deposit from them. I neither know or care, my claim is against the hire company not the hirer. No it isn't The hirer of the boat has either paid a deposit or waver for deposit, the hirers agreement is with the hire company, the company either have the deposit or accepted a waver fee to cover the deposit. The hirer has passed on his liability in doing so in exactly the same way as you do with your car insurance. Blimey the claims are made against the owner of the vehicle, his liability is taken on by the insurance company except for any excess he/she agreed to pay. Clearly you are completely clueless LOL As usual it seems

Their not forced to have insurance, their required either to pay the required insurance excess the hire boat company requires or a waver to cover the same. The hirer is not insuring the boat, the hire company is, the hirers contract with the hire company is to cover the company's excess. Insurance diverts liability from the driver to the insurance company except for any excess requirement. Quite simple really LOL And if you look at the hire company's contract you'll see the company requires indemnity from the hirer against any claim from a third party.

They are liable to the hire boat company, not the 3rd party claimant. Read the terms & cons. I really don't give a toss what you believe. As I said to another member, good luck claiming from a hirer if you get hit by a hire boat.