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  1. and Queen Camilla
  2. the first action for any block of flats where there is a risk of fire spreading should be to cut off the gas, it's a no brainer. folk can manage in the summer without gas, even if it means buying electric hotplates/ovens. when i was a kid our only source of hot water was boiled in a kettle, so even hot water should not preclude this solution.
  3. maybe he was just rinsing it out, but I don't usually give fly tippers and their like the benefit of the doubt. named and shamed! let it be an example to everyone to do the same with all anti-social bastards, from litterers in the park to truck drivers using their mobiles (I often wonder if the latter are texting, buying stuff on ebay, surfing for pornography or playing on-line games). in any case they should be physically removed from their driving seats, their trucks impounded, and never allowed to have an HGV licence again. ............... rant over.
  4. you have just explained why it is necessary to have fire evacuation drills, so that people understand the need not to panic. you have also explained why many buildings are not designed for emergency evacuation, which is irresponsible on the part of the architect, the fire service and the building control department; clearly the Building Regs need to be reviewed. as I have said before, if 'new' countries like UAE and Singapore can mange to evacuate occupants why the hell can't we? .... and of course long term disabled people should never be housed on upper floors. my industry training has taught me that every decision in life should be tempered by at least an informal risk analysis - this is part of nature for most intelligent species, why are humans excluded?
  5. agree 100%; you will never affect the humidity of the air surrounding the boat to any significant degree; to prevent evaporation it needs to be in the order of 100% which will never happen on a sunny day. On a hot day the effect of water spray alone will be enormous. I recall my kids on the beach when we lived in Oman. On a typical sunny day with temperatures in the 40's, when they came out of the water we had to wrap them up in beach towels because they were seriously shivering as the water on their bodies evaporated. The effect is immediate and very significant.
  6. I am very surprised about this policy for residents to remain in place when there is a fire. I have little experience of living or working in a high rise in the UK, but have done so in Ankara, Erzurum, Abu Dhabi, Dubai, New Delhi, Gurgaon and Singapore, and according to company policy have always made myself aware of the fire emergency procedures. In every case the instructions were related to leaving the building in a controlled and safe manner, and escape routes have been properly signed (and evacuation has been practised in several cases, including using the stairs from a 41st floor apartment). Why is London different? My assumption is because no adequate safe means of egress have been incorporated into the building .... perhaps I am just being cynical. In the oil and gas industry the first thing you learn on any installation, residence or office building (even on a brief visit of an hour or so) is the evacuation route. Accordingly a building like Grdenfell Tower would be immediately condemned by the likes of Shell or BP as unsafe for occupation even for a few minutes.
  7. AFAIK this type of announcement from the EA is unprecedented. Does anyone recall anything similar?
  8. Regarding the reference to 'preliminary tests', the day after the fire, before anyone had confirmed that the cladding incorporated polyethylene, the BBC showed a bloke playing a blowlamp on a block of expanded polyurethane which caught fire and burned quite fiercely. That kind of journalism is just alarmist IMHO.
  9. if 'Yes, Minister' is anything to go by, it will be the senior civil servants at the appropriate Department (Communities and Local Government??) who should ensure matters of urgency are brought to the Minister's attention and dealt with properly. The position of the titular head of this Department has been held by at least 2 ministers over the last 3 years. Melanie Dawes has been the Permanent Secretary since 2015, previously she was a tax specialist (which says it all ).
  10. it's not just about cladding. A building surveyor on BBC news this morning said he regularly checked and found fire breaks in shared building were compromised. He mentioned one case where he removed a socket and back box fitted on a party wall, and found that he could see the back of the back box fitted to the adjoining flat. And when he checked a cavity wall running the length of the building he could see through the cavity past the next flat.
  11. I thought everyone knew that Andrew was the son of Christine Keeler, fathered by DoE, and was absorbed into the family after HM agreed to pretend a third pregnancy. ................... or to put it another way, OP himself is very ignorant of recent history. pots and kettles.
  12. what is your source or authority for making that statement?
  13. sorry WV, after 50 years in the construction industry I can say with my hand on my heart that you are talking a load of bollix. There is a world of difference between a gas fitter not following established safe procedures for his profession/trade and a building contractor or his subcontractor (the installer) not undertaking a review of the suitability of specified materials (which in some cases may have been procured in advance by the client or architect and issued to the installer, or purchased by the installer on the architect's instruction under a Provisional Sum in the BoQ). If the materials are actually procured by the installer and they do not meet the Specification, then the installer is culpable (as is the architect for failing to correct it at the time), but we should assume that the materials were compliant until we know to the contrary. However, if the installer does not install the materials correctly in accordance with the manufacturer's data sheets and/or the Specification in the Contract, thereby creating a fire risk, then that is of course the installer's responsibility, although the supervising architect should inspect and correct any such errors. Very few, if any, contractors and subcontractors will have the knowledge (and certainly not the time to source and instruct specialists) to undertake such a review, unless they are party to a turnkey or EPCC (engineering, procurement, construction and commissioning) Contract. You are of course aware that there are degrees of flammability, and your glib suggestion about 'a dangerous inflammable product' is unhelpful; perhaps we shouldn't put flammable hydrocarbon liquids in fuel tanks, or buy vehicles with a substantial proportion of organic materials (plastics) in their construction because we know they are potentially dangerous and flammable?
  14. you seriously need to study history over the past 2000 years before making an even sillier billy of yourself. just a couple of examples - a written language in most of Europe where previously none existed, and concrete. where would you be today without either of those?
  15. is that about the use of the word 'Glaswegian' ?