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Paul C

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  1. If it were a car bodywork repair in a similar area (ie a large flat area), a professional repair would look to a 'feature' such as a swage line or the end of a panel, to do the repaired area to. For example if it were a 2 door saloon and the rear wing had damage severe enough to need welding, they would replace the entire wing from where it meets the rear lights/bumper, to the front door pillar - a substantial piece of metalwork about 1m x 1.5m in size. Or, if a roof needed a welded repair, then a car's entire roof would be chopped at the top of the pillars, and an entire new panel fitted. Remember how cars used to have vinyl roofs quite often? Partly this was because a painted roof shows imperfections more easily - these days car bodywork pressings are better, so there is less of a need (and most cars now have a sunroof too, which reduces the flat area). I wonder if it might be possible to take your replaced/altered area right up to another window, but given the typical bodywork of a narrowboat I doubt it would be a small area. I distinctly remember on our boat a 'join' where it was obvious that >1 panel had been used to make the flat sides, it was in line with the edge of a (rectangular) window so didn't look too conspicuous. The roof wasn't too bad, partly because it had items on it, and partly because it had textured (grip) paint effect/finish. So maybe there's a way of disguising the repair....possibly graphics or signwriting? But I doubt it will ever be possible to make it invisible if its a smooth painted flat panel.
  2. Anyone who thinks that boatbuilders who build boats under the RCD scheme for inland waters (ie class D and C, the classes where self-certification is allowed, compared to the others where independent certification is required) 100% comply with the RCD, is being a little naive. However they are more-or-less broadly complying, which is seemingly deemed acceptable in the industry. Certainly there is no outcry of the more popular boatbuilders obviously cutting corners. Indeed, if they did then their reputation would suffer greatly - it just wouldn't make business sense to do so. And everyone seems happy enough that they are able to self-certify. Once you consider small boatbuilders ie amateurs/hobbyists doing it, then business reputation plays no role at all (except for making it a decent job for their own benefit, or possible eye on resale price). Cut too many corners and it starts becoming obvious; then a prospective buyer might think "I'm not a boat expert yet I can clearly see that's been done in a dodgy way......what else that isn't so obvious hasn't been done right...." Non-compliant nav lights have already been mentioned (can't refer the post number but see above), but obviously there are many other areas where even a non-expert could detect RCD non-compliance. Unfortunately there are plenty of other areas which would require disassembly to properly determine (these areas would be inspected and signed off during build on a class a/b vessel).
  3. Is the boat painted or currently in primer?
  4. Are you sure?
  5. So, why did you mention PRN previously? Do you believe it applies here?
  6. Just to clarify, is the area under discussion tidal, or below the River Cam's natural upstream tidal limit?
  7. I don't think we're disagreeing, possibly only on semantics. A PRN is effectively a form of easement, there are some areas where PRN doesn't apply but an easement exists over riparian land (eg navigations, man-made alterations to the river flow/path).
  8. Thanks for the clarification.
  9. No doubt there is an easement to allow boats to "use" the river by travelling over the various parcels of land owned by the riparian owner. This easement, I suspect, does not allow boats to moor though - just to pass over it in the course of a journey/cruise. Of course....its wording would be crucial. I don't even think they'd need to be attached - otherwise everyone would use anchors etc. to get round this rule.
  10. Well there's 2 jobs really.......removing a porthole to make good the area (let me guess, its a flat side panel area of the boat - the worst place to weld something in without distortion) and then install a porthole into a metal side panel (which I dare say is the easier of the two). And then there's the interior trim issue, interior insulation, possible wiring or pipework rerouting, possibly framework behind the new location, etc etc (we don't know these details but you do - this is an unlined sailaway? or a lined sailaway? or a finished boat, etc etc). No doubt there will be paintwork to rectify too. Give serious consideration to leaving the original porthole in place (maybe with a dark/black/limo tint?) and installing another, if it won't look too disasterous???
  11. Yes and no. There's no specific offence regarding running the engine while moored, but if its noisy and/or smelly and/or polluting, then it can be an offence under very vague/general laws which cover such things. The only place it specifically gets a mention is in the T&Cs of a licence, which are not backed by legislation - the 8pm - 8am rule is in there. Normally in rural areas it is a non issue because 1) there isn't local housing to disturb, 2) boaters understand the (power/energy) needs of other boaters, hence the need to run the engine while moored. But, evening time is a time when sound travels well and the noise from even a quiet engine running will disturb the tranquility. So looking at it from a moral viewpoint, it can be very wrong to run the engine while moored, depending on how moral you feel.
  12. No worries, I think we're pretty much in agreement except for details. However it is these details which would clarify the "grey area", to make it more black-and-white. Trespass is a civil offence, and like any other civil offence the police don't get involved (except for things like, when a breach of the peace occurs etc). There are two parties, and its up to one party to take action against the other. The fact that a law is difficult to enforce, doesn't nullify it. In any case, its a bit of a side issue because I believe Cambridge County Council aren't taking action retrospectively before the 2014 clarification of the land ownership - they are only tooking at the situation forwards from this point. And since its been clarified, and that its clearly traspass (since its not simply a person entering the land; boats are being moored on it) the debate could move on from this point.
  13. If you concede its trespass, then we're in 100% agreement. I don't understand your concept of "undoing" a trespass once its been done though. The "trespass" is complete simply by being there. A previous trespass still occured even if you've subsequently vacated.
  14. Trespass is a civil offence. There is a (legitimate) debate on whether the term "illegal" is correct nomenclature for civil wrongs, but in my eyes unlawful = illegal and this covers both civil and criminal offences. And its not necessary for it to have been tried in a court of law - for example if someone shoots past me on the motorway at 110mph I can say he was driving illegally even if the police don't catch him speeding. And in a similar vein to the "landowner chooses to do nothing" - the police don't normally prosecute motorists who do 76mph, but the speed limit remains 70mph on motorways.
  15. Even if the weak argument holds up, you could only say "it wasn't illegal to moor there". Going forwards, now that ownership of land has been clarified and some boats are moored without permission, one could quite reasonably say those are illegally moored now.